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  1. 02-20-2012 05:16 PM #1
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    Default $3 stt ajs utg

    Never sure what to do in this spot.

    No Limit Holdem Tournament
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    7 Players
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    Stacks:
    UTG andyjok (3,390)
    UTG+1 kralingen333 (1,490)
    MP panxoipinxo (1,050)
    CO Tnuts888 (3,970)
    BTN Zenit35 (5,515)
    SB Jenspet1958 (3,055)
    BB sebib17 (1,530)
    Blinds: 200/400
    Pre-Flop: (600, 7 players) andyjok is UTG
    andyjok ?
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  2. 02-20-2012 08:12 PM #2
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    Seems like a relatively straight forward spot to stick 'em in considering your stack size
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  3. 02-20-2012 11:23 PM #3
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    Assuming it's just a 1table SnG and ICM isnt really a factor yet with so many left, no reason not to shove IMO
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  4. 02-21-2012 12:27 AM #4
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    Out of curiousity, OP, what about this spot confuses you?
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  5. 02-21-2012 01:57 AM #5
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    Quote Originally Posted by donkbee View Post
    Out of curiousity, OP, what about this spot confuses you?
    Im utg with a good hand which i dont want to fold but when thinking about what would call me if i shove i feel that i would be either dominated or up against a pp. Maybe the shorter stacks would call wider. Also letting the blinds pass i would still have a half decent shoving stack.
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  6. 02-21-2012 06:17 AM #6
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    this is a stt? what are the starting stacks?
    Playing big pots at small stakes.
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  7. 02-21-2012 12:16 PM #7
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    Quote Originally Posted by baudib View Post
    this is a stt? what are the starting stacks?
    Yeah stt 2000 starting stacks
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    Quote Originally Posted by andyjok View Post
    Im utg with a good hand which i dont want to fold but when thinking about what would call me if i shove i feel that i would be either dominated or up against a pp.
    This is probably all true, but you will get folds from the table a high % of the time, and when you do get folds your stack increases by nearly 20% which is not a small number. You're probably about 40% to win the pot vs a calling range, too, which isnt terrible
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  9. 02-21-2012 10:01 PM #9
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    so would you also shove hands like suited connectors here as when called you are probably less likely to be dominated.
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  10. 02-22-2012 02:51 PM #10
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    You want a hand that is going to flip well when someone calls you with a pair, so you shouldn't shove suited connectors with your stack. Also there is a good chance a shorty will call you with a slightly worse ace, so you shouldn't assume that you are dominated when Ax calls you.
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  11. 02-22-2012 06:07 PM #11
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    Just because you ran into AK this one time doesn't mean you should shove suited connectors instead

    AJs vs. top 15% = 52.8%

    T9s vs. top 15% = 36.8%
    Playing big pots at small stakes.
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  12. 02-22-2012 07:46 PM #12
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    Quote Originally Posted by baudib View Post
    Just because you ran into AK this one time doesn't mean you should shove suited connectors instead

    AJs vs. top 15% = 52.8%

    T9s vs. top 15% = 36.8%
    I was gonna make this exact same post when I seen something about suited connectors as opposed to AJs.

    Even when we are crushed a large % of the time say versus top 5%
    AJs is still 33% as opposed to 31% for T9s
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  13. 02-22-2012 10:01 PM #13
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    Quote Originally Posted by baudib View Post
    Just because you ran into AK this one time doesn't mean you should shove suited connectors instead

    AJs vs. top 15% = 52.8%

    T9s vs. top 15% = 36.8%
    It was pocket jacks not ak lol, which im not bothered about as long the shove was correct. So what range would you shove here ?
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