Planned to get it in by river and 2nd guessing decision.

[JKDS]

@folding pre: NITS

[rpm]

@folding pre: NITS

QFMFT! maybe at higher stakes when opponents are less likely to call with dominated hands and more capable to punish us with position. but surely this open would be 100% standard at 4nl?

[EasyPoker]

@folding pre: NITS

1) Moving up is the most important thing at microbonk poker.

2) Most microbonks cannot play postflop properly.

3) Opening KQ UTG at FR gets you into silly marginal positions postflop a good portion of the time

I've seen loads of people say "nits" etc to folding KQ UTG, but I've also spoken to/read/watched things from winning FR players who say KQ isn't in their UTG range...so it's up to people to decide how they want to play.

[rpm]

1) Moving up is the most important thing at microbonk poker.

2) Most microbonks cannot play postflop properly.

3) Opening KQ UTG at FR gets you into silly marginal positions postflop a good portion of the time

I've seen loads of people say "nits" etc to folding KQ UTG, but I've also spoken to/read/watched things from winning FR players who say KQ isn't in their UTG range...so it's up to people to decide how they want to play.

something is either +EV or it's not. learning to play poker (which is what will dictate how much you make and whether or not you move up etc etc) is about learning to take all the +EV spots you possibly can. even if they are marginal. i'm pretty sure it could be proven by a winning player's database that it is profitable to open KQo UTG+1 at 5nl FR and lower provided you have even a slight understanding of how to value bet. granted, it may be close, depending on postflop skill level. but it's +EV which means it will add to your winrate. your poker skills will probably benefit, too.

[rpm]

I've seen loads of people say "nits" etc to folding KQ UTG, but I've also spoken to/read/watched things from winning FR players who say KQ isn't in their UTG range...

were they playing 4nl 8-handed? and with 3/4 of the seats with position hero being stationy fish?

[JKDS]

1) Moving up is the most important thing at microbonk poker.

2) Most microbonks cannot play postflop properly.

3) Opening KQ UTG at FR gets you into silly marginal positions postflop a good portion of the time

I've seen loads of people say "nits" etc to folding KQ UTG, but I've also spoken to/read/watched things from winning FR players who say KQ isn't in their UTG range...so it's up to people to decide how they want to play.

Disagree with 1). People should be learning to play poker. Moving up is secondary to this. If you dont learn how to play poker...moving up is a waste of time, you'll just get owned.

Disagree with 2). In general, microstakes goes like this. "Raise, get called, cbet, they fold". Everyone on ftr can do this. You could open only the bottom 10% of hands utg and still show a profit at microstakes from this position just by cbetting.

Disagree with 3) AK can get u into very similar situations. Ya, with KQ you rarely flop the Topest of Pairs with the Topest of Kickers...but if you are only valuebetting TPTK at microstakes then you're doing something wrong. TT-77 can get you into many difficult positions postflop if you raise them utg+1...but its still retarded to fold them.