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    Here's a cool thread on "reasons to bet" and apart from value-betting and bluffing, ideas like betting to protect our hand or to win dead money are discussed:
    http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...ml#post1909426

    An example is given of winning dead money, when we raise open K9o or something in the BU in order to steal blinds. It's clearly +EV but you're not often getting better hands to fold, nor are you getting value from worse hands.

    And as for "protection", it might not be a bad idea vs weak-passive types who won't try to steal the pot away from you with a whiffed AQ (against such types that would try to steal we would be inclined to c/c with a bluffcatcher), and so by checking and letting a potential free river fall could mean we're giving away the pot to them when an A or Q comes, with no upsides to speak of... What I'm trying to say is, are there times when you're just happy to take down the pot, even if the likelihood of being called by worse is very low, and what would be good examples of such situations? Just some fairly undigested thoughts, I'd appreciate more advanced players to help out with the discussion.
    Last edited by eugmac; 10-01-2011 at 12:19 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by eugmac View Post
    And as for "protection", it might not be a bad idea vs weak-passive types who won't try to steal the pot away from you with a whiffed AQ (against such types that would try to steal we would be inclined to c/c with a bluffcatcher), and so by checking and letting a potential free river fall could mean we're giving away the pot to them when an A or Q comes, with no upsides to speak of... What I'm trying to say is, are there times when you're just happy to take down the pot, even if the likelihood of being called by worse is very low, and what would be good examples of such situations? Just some fairly undigested thoughts, I'd appreciate more advanced players to help out with the discussion.
    Protection is largely a myth but if you think of betting to force someone to give up their equity in the hand rather than bluffing it helps you to understand spots where betting makes sense even if you don't expect to get called by worse.

    You raise with 99, get called by 4 people. The flop is 822. You should bet here even though it's highly unlikely you will be called by worse.
    Playing big pots at small stakes.

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