Werewolf - Collapse of Civilization

[TLR]

a couple of things
Philly is posting WAY less than normal, but would philly the wolf change his style of play this much? He was also in a group of "almost modkilled" for this game with ragnar and DTB. It would be pretty balsy for a wolf to walk this line so closely.

I think he might, I think that one of the issues with Philly when he and I were wolves was that he posted a bit too much, and he might have realized that and figured that he needs to say less

I dont recall Philly ever being in danger of being modkilled in this game , if you can point us to this post it will be helpful, I did not find it

[Shotglass]

Interesting theory but I doubt it is correct, I will mention the main point why I think that

1. You give the both a lot of 'wolf credit' for coming up with elaborate plays and then doing totally noob mistakes (for example lynching WBF because he put some heat on them)

2. Once gabe came out as a vig it was clear there is 0% chance he is going to get lynched because if he is the fake vig then the real vig would shoot him at this night, so assuming Wuf would have gone hard after him because he believed that the village might hang him makes little sense, it was clear Gabe is going to survive

3. I dont think there is much chance Benny would have clearly defended Wuf if they were both wolves

Also, your note that Wuf (and Ragnar) survives the flip because he was a wolf makes no sense at all, the mod of the game does not play for the wolf team and does not try to decieve the village, he is an impartial arbitrator; if the mod said there was a flip then it means there was a flip.

These are all good points. Thanks for the insight.

[OngBonga]

did ongies WW boner just die or something?!??!....im gone all day and not even a full page of posts =(....

Lol! I've been busy taking drugs and dancing like a retard. Had a great weekend. It's tough to get back up to date when there's so many posts to sift through, much easier than if you're checking the thread twenty times a day. Not much to go on that we didn't have yesterday. Gator's defence of shotglass is interesting, and makes me want to lynch shotglass again today, I'm still thinking she's a wolf more than any other. DTB is acting a little strangely, by now I would expect his paranoia of gator to have resulted in some form of attack on him.

Need some time to get back into this.

[Shotglass]

Lol! I've been busy taking drugs and dancing like a retard. Had a great weekend.

awesome! Prefer jack to drugs (get me drunk and watch the show!!!), but we.

After re-reading some of this crap again, we've got some really good players in this game and a really shitty one (me). Most of the crap between you and me is prolly just villager on villager aggression.

As for wanting to lynch me, go ahead. After I'm confirmed a villager then maybe it'll shed some light on things. (but as effed up and all over the place as some of my posts have been, it just might add more confusion.)

I'm kinda concerned about some of the posts and lack of posts that DTB, bikes, TLR and philly have made, but nothing that I'm willing to bold, yet. Supa is just way out there.

Likely willagers:

GatorJH
Hoopy
OngBonga
Shotglass
Wufwugy
Lolzzz_321

Suspicious:

Bikes
DropTheBanana
Philly and the phanatics
Ragnar
Supa
TLR

[lolzzz_321]

sup im back

lynch philly

[supa]

OK lynch philly

[DropTheBanana]

lynch philly

[TLR]

sup im back

lynch philly

please elaborate

[OngBonga]

14 hours is a long time. Shotglass is convinced me and wuf are wolves at 2.45am, then is convinced we're both villagers at 4.49pm (UK time).

I think she is worried about my read on her, and has tried to get me lynched. When she realises that the village are not generally suspicious of me and a lynch is unlikely to succeed, she calls me and wuf villagers and moves on to other threats.

She hasn't got a clue what she thinks, yet appears to be paying great attention to the game. Obvious lynch choice for me. lynch shotglass

I can join the philly wagon if that's what the village want to do, he hasn't done a great deal to convince me he's a villager other than hang back, something I doubt he'd do as a wolf, but then I don't know this for sure. The fact that two inactives got modkilled and one lynched shows I was probably right when I said they are all disinterested villagers, and any wolf who coasts through pretending to be a disinterested villager can have their hollow victory and become default day one lynch in future, as far as I'm concerned. Philly might be a wolf, so I won't shed any tears if he's our lynch today, but I still think we should aim for shotglass.

[OngBonga]

Also, shotglass being the noobest of players, why wasn't she aimed for on day one? The wolves allowed wuf, bigred and hoopy to be targetted before shotglass, that's three regs instead of a noob. Shotglass coasted through day one without any heat at all. That for me is the most telling piece of info we have.

[Hoopy]

please elaborate

+1

Also, shotglass being the noobest of players, why wasn't she aimed for on day one? The wolves allowed wuf, bigred and hoopy to be targetted before shotglass, that's three regs instead of a noob. Shotglass coasted through day one without any heat at all. That for me is the most telling piece of info we have.

I actually commented on this during day 1 and Benny defended her, hmmmmmmmm.........

[lolzzz_321]

hmmmm i learnt that bikes is a villager

[OngBonga]

I actually commented on this during day 1 and Benny defended her, hmmmmmmmm.........

Yeah I recall someone saying it, but at the time I think I said I wasn't convinced about shotglass being suspect. I defended her too, and then the village allow me to run a wagon on wuf which so nearly got him lynched. The fact I was allowed to run that wagon should be cause for concern. Why would the village allow a relative noob to lead the village based on a day one crapshoot soulread? Because it was an acceptable lynch for the wolves, that's why. It kept the heat off the noob.

Philly is an ok lynch, though I must admit I'd rather have see him go instead of warpe yesterday. Philly is the only inactive who has me concerned. Let's not waste a lynch on ragnar, let the wolves or mod deal with him. His continued silence is deafening... it says "I'M A BORED VILLAGER". If he's a wolf, then we can lynch him on day one when we have nothing better in the future. That's the way to ensure wolves don't stay silent, and allow the silence of those who choose to be quiet to confirm them as villagers. We should use the inactives to our advantage, not the wolves'.

[Shotglass]

hmmmm i learnt that bikes is a villager

Why the hell would you throw this out there when it makes him a great target to get nommed and several good players have recommended that the medium keep his info to himself until he gets two or three confirmed villagers?

[Shotglass]

More than making him a great target, it narrows down the list of suspects for the wolves while they're angel hunting.

[OngBonga]

I missed lolz's announcement. I'm surprised he's done this while the angel is alive, especially since he wasn't likely to die today.

[lolzzz_321]

tbh, i didn't learn bikes is a villager, i just wanted to see shotglass' reaction

[lolzzz_321]

yo philly i know ur not a villager so just lets us lynch u or come out as the angel or something

[wufwugy]

wait so does this mean egowugy was right

lynch philly

also, if philly is a wolf, i *think* this means the other wolf wasn't on my wagon. my guess is that one stayed on (benny), one jumped off, and one didn't touch. i have this thought because it would be silly for two to stay on like benny did, and just the way things go, probably two wolves bolded me while the third didn't. looking for symmetry is usually wrong though

[bikes]

lynch philly

[Hoopy]

lynch philly

[wufwugy]

rescind philly

is lolz saying he spied the wolf, or this is just a guess?

[Shotglass]

wait so does this mean egowugy was right

lynch philly

[OngBonga]

rescind philly

is lolz saying he spied the wolf, or this is just a guess?

Well, seeing as he doesn't seem to know if philly is wolf or angel, I'd say he's seeing what happens if we go after him. Doesn't anyone think we should maybe slow down until he has posted?

[wufwugy]

well it looks like lolz just alluded to scanning philly and getting a wolf, and he just said to get it over with out as angel yadda yadda yadda

but he's cryptic enough that it's possible this is not a lookup, yet everybody thinks it is

[a500lbgorilla]

6 votes for philly and the phanatics (bikes, dtb, hoopy, lolzzz, shotglass, supa)
1 votes for Shotglass (OngBonga)

7 votes to lynch

[OngBonga]

Anyone who bolds and nails philly before he has posted should be lynched tomorrow.

[DropTheBanana]

I'm pretty sure Philly and Wuf are the last two wolves. Going back to look at Benny's outing real quick and then will post as to why.

[bikes]

even if philly says hes the angel he has to be lynched so your point ong is moot.

[OngBonga]

But... what if he is the angel?

[bikes]

in the high likelyhood i get pwnt tonight i'll elaborate

if philly is indeed not a villager then theres a 66% chance he's a wolf and we have to take that chance. If philly is the angel well that sucks cause he gets nommed tonight if he actually is the angel and it serves no purpose keeping him alive.

if philly is not the angel and claims he is the real angel so obv stfu as outting yourself as the angel is prolly the dumbest choice ever esp in this game where the angel cannot protect him/herself so if you are the real angel stfu as outing yourself gets you nothing but eaten tonight and you really hurt the village

[OngBonga]

So because lolz said he knows he's not a villager, are we assuming that a dead has said this? Is that what rilla is going to tell someone who says "look up philly", he'll reply "not a regular villager"? Doesn't make sense to me. If lolz knows he is a wolf, he should be clearer, until then we should wait for him to post before we finish him off.

[OngBonga]

And it's better for the wolves to nom the angel than it is for the village to lynch him. We need them to waste their nom on him, and we have a higher % chance of bagging a wolf by lynching someone else. If two people claim to be the angel, I guess we have to lynch them both. If philly is a reg villager we should think twice about following lolz's lead so quickly in future days.

[bikes]

Tanes would have to be the dumbest fucking seer/person in the history of the game for any of your assumptions to be correct

[DropTheBanana]

Quick!

Before I post, can someone explain the percentage thing. If Triptanes receives information it will always be 100% correct and sometimes he just won't get it? Or is there a chance his information is wrong?

[OngBonga]

Lolz is obviously playing cryptically. I can't make much sense of what he's saying, I'm assuming much is designed to see how people react. At this stage, I cannot tell if he is telling the village he knows he's a wolf, or if he's getting us to lynch someone he has no info on. I would prefer to wait until lolz confirms philly's role, or philly posts that he is not the angel and we can lynch him without fear, or that he's the angel and we rescind until we have discussed it further. A villager philly shouldn't fake out as the angel to save his own arse. A wolf philly would, of course.

[OngBonga]

Tanes would have to be the dumbest fucking seer/person in the history of the game for any of your assumptions to be correct

Also, what what? I'm not making assumptions, I'm assessing all the variables. I just don't like lynching people without them having chance to defend themselves, that's just standard, isn't it?

[bikes]

christ some people literally need everything drawn out in crayon for them


we have to lynch philly tonight. if he's the angel well that sucks.

let me go through the outcomes of what happens here.

A) we lynch philly with the likely 66% he's a wolf
.1)he's a wolf
..a)hooray
.2)he's the angel
..a)crap
.3)he's a villager
..a)lynch tanes
...#)we lynch a wolf and real medium is still hidden finding out cool stuff


B) philly claims he is the angel (this happens 100% of the time)
.1) he's actually the angel and dies tonight
..a)well that didn't do much
.2) he's lives tonight
..a) he's a wolf and we lynch him tomorrow
..b) he's actually an angel and the wolves eat someone else knowing that we will lynch him tomorrow saving their nom for another villager


either way this ends with philly dead today, tonight or tomorrow. better to get it done with now when the lynch gives us the most info

[DropTheBanana]

Quick!

Before I post, can someone explain the percentage thing. If Triptanes receives information it will always be 100% correct and sometimes he just won't get it? Or is there a chance his information is wrong?

I have (what I think is) a game changing post. I need an answer to this ASAP

[a500lbgorilla]

I believe you will find the answer in the first post of the thread.

[DropTheBanana]

I read it a few times and just thought I was missing something. So Triptanes info is always correct assuming he is relaying un-doctored information.

GG wolves!!

[DropTheBanana]

I'm going to catch a lot of shit if I'm wrong (and possibly just for doing it) but I'm pretty goddamn sure on this one. And if I am right I want to give a big shout out to 'Rilla for being the best villager in the game!

Anyhow, I am going to run the risk of being the SDM of this game.

I AM THE ANGEL!

Apologies to Gabe, but I figured the chance the wolves went after you were waaaay less than the chances they go after Lolzzz. Bad timing on my part and the wolves were just on a different level than myself.

This makes Philly a wolf no doubt. String that Seminole up!!

Look at who all was on the chopping block and survived due to "flips". Albeit the first 2 skated by even though we didn't vote and were "allowed" to live.
-Myself
-Philly
-Wufwugy

Wuf went hard at Gabe trying to put doubt in the villages/angel's mind and giving the wolves a clear path at him at night.

When Benny outed he probably saw this as an opportunity to take the same line but run with it until the end because it would clear him for later days. As it should....most times. Even he himself knows/said that this quote unquote clears him 100%

Fuck that noise!

The only 3 to survive those instances are special to the game. Lynch Philly and no matter what Wuf concocts in his posts today/tomorrow send his ass to the gallows and it's game over.

If by some marginal chance I'm wrong, Bikes is the last wolf.

[DropTheBanana]

I realize Philly was going down even if I didn't out myself, I just needed to stress the point of people living at pivotal points and that's why I did it.

[wufwugy]

Quick!

Before I post, can someone explain the percentage thing. If Triptanes receives information it will always be 100% correct and sometimes he just won't get it? Or is there a chance his information is wrong?

pretty sure if rilla sends him a positive result on a dead lookup, it's not a lie

[bikes]

WHY OH WHY WOULD YOU OUT YOURSELF AS THE ANGEL WHEN PHILLY IS GETTING LYNCHED 100%

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this post woulda been equally effective if u left out the angel shit.

[wufwugy]

lol i had u pegged as angel

like ragnar as wolf more now

[DropTheBanana]

To show that 2/3 of the people living due to 'Rillas discretion were pertinent to the game. Making it MUCH more likely the remaining 1/3 was as well.

[DropTheBanana]

But 1/3 against 2/3 isn't as convincing. Wuf is the last wolf. Just give the AROOOOO and end it Wuf!

[OngBonga]

I do not see how lolz is given the information "he is not a villager". If a dead villager scanned him, then I would assume (now I'm making assumptions) that rilla would say one of four things...

1. your scan was unsuccessful
2. he is a villager
3. he is a wolf
4. he is the angel

If lolz knows he is a wolf, great, obviously we lynch him. No problem. But this isn't clear.
If lolz doesn't know, we should wait.

It seems I'm the only one who doesn't need it drawn out in crayon. The rules don't confuse me, they seem to confuse everyone else though.

Also, just read banana's outing. Here was me thinking bikes was a bad angel being not very subtle. Still would like to wait for philly to post before we finish him.

[wufwugy]

naw actually rag aint a wolf. i did find it highly plausible that rilla decided to not modkill him and instead provide a flip if he's a wolf, but he's inactive again

i really want him dead tho cuz low content players making it to the endgame is always a problem. should probably cinch bold philly right now so itd modkill rag, but dunno

[DropTheBanana]

Just bold Philly and nom yourself wolf!

[wufwugy]

im flattered at how much credit you give me. defying statistics and all

[OngBonga]

To be fair wuf, if philly is a wolf, you're bang in trouble tomorrow. I'm not convinced myself, but if banana is right about philly, I can follow his lead tomorrow.

[DropTheBanana]

My statistics prof. was a little Chinese lady who's first word's of her first lecture were literally "Sorry, I don't speak good EngRish" Sorry if my understanding of them aren't up to par.

[wufwugy]

lol bring it

im actually somewhat interested in seeing who tries to attack me tomorrow

[Ragnar4]

On my way home from a wedding. Look. If angel is forrealz, AND Lolllzzz is also for realz. Philly lynch tells us what we need to know about those two.

Lynch philly

[OngBonga]

Depends on philly's role wuf. If he's a villager, I'm after shotglass or ragnar. If philly is wolf, I think the universe implodes tomorrow...

[a500lbgorilla]

A train just ran by. Smacked some poor villager up something awful. Poor philly and the phanatics.

Considering the day was short and those that didn't contribute nearly enough did squeeze in the all important lynch vote, no one is getting anywhere near the coin today.

The village of Netherlife:

Bikes
DropTheBanana
GatorJH
Hoopy
Lolzzz_321
OngBonga
Ragnar
Shotglass
Supa
TLR
Wufwugy

2 Werewolves
1 Angel
1 Medium
7 Villagers
10 Dead

bigred, the Turncoat, lynched on day 1
Willburforce, a villager, eaten on night 1
fulksy, a villager, lynched on day 2
BennyLaRue, a werewolf, shot on night 2
DanAronG, a villager, eaten on night 2
Warpe, a villager, lynched on day 3
Boog690, a villager, modkilled on day 3
jackvance, a villager, modkilled on day 3
gabe, the Vigilante, eaten on night 3
Philly and the phanatics, a villager, lynched on day 4


Night 4 will end at 9PM EST tomorrow. Wolves get hungry. Angels get holy. Mediums get in touch with the dead. Freshly fallen hit me up for a look-see.

[a500lbgorilla]

DropTheBanana, the Angel, outsmarted the game all the way to the grave.

The village of Netherlife:

Bikes
GatorJH
Hoopy
Lolzzz_321
OngBonga
Ragnar
Shotglass
Supa
TLR
Wufwugy

2 Werewolves
1 Medium
7 Villagers
11 Dead

bigred, the Turncoat, lynched on day 1
Willburforce, a villager, eaten on night 1
fulksy, a villager, lynched on day 2
BennyLaRue, a werewolf, shot on night 2
DanAronG, a villager, eaten on night 2
Warpe, a villager, lynched on day 3
Boog690, a villager, modkilled on day 3
jackvance, a villager, modkilled on day 3
gabe, the Vigilante, eaten on night 3
Philly and the phanatics, a villager, lynched on day 4
DropTheBanana, the angel, eaten on night 4

Day 5 will end at 9PM EST on Thursday.
6 votes to lynch

[supa]

So this sucks.

[wufwugy]

lolz is the new sdm. yall niggas owe philly an apology

[OngBonga]

yall niggas owe philly an apology

I don't, I didn't vote for him.

I think both the angel and medium have made a fuck up of this, it's amazing that the vig is the special that stands tall. What the fuck is going on here? Are the specials on the side of the wolves? Lolz is playing a very cryptic game, and banana made a crazy outing based on a bad read.

Lolz, please tell us you got something, it's your last chance for redemption. You're a dead man tonight obviously.

We badly need a wolf. Anyone on my page with shotglass yet? It seems so obvious to me, but I stand here alone for two days now.

[supa]

Much love for philly but no apologies. He was a highly probable wolf imo and no defense woulda saved him so getting it on early was good.

Wanna lynch wuf but only coz if he is a wolf and wins we'll never hear the fucking end of it.

Trip, let's hear sumpin'.

[wufwugy]

Wanna lynch wuf but only coz if he is a wolf and wins we'll never hear the fucking end of it.

best reason in thread so far

[bikes]

tanes you better have a really f good explanation.

[wufwugy]

I think my top suspects so far are DTB and Philly

We should wait for Lollzzzz input and hope that he remembered to look someone up

I think the Angel did an OK job protecting the medium, it is kind of a mind game with the wolves where the angel hope to think one level above them. The main problem with losing gabe is that we lost the one confirmed villager that can lead the village

BTW I am not a wolf

My village breakdown so far

Most likely wolf candidates: DTB and Philly

I have no idea about Shotglass, Supa and bikes

Regarding Gator, I tend to believe he is a villager, while he is definitly sneaky when he plays a wolf I tend to place him in the villager camp, anyway Gator will be looked up most probably in the next 1-2 days

Ongbonga is probably a villager, I dont think him playing the way he did as a wolf. I think Ranger is a villager since he was at real risk of getting modkilled, he did not know it is going to be a flip and he still did not post anything

Wuf is probably a villager as well

I still have a lot of suspecion about Hoopy because of Day 1-2 action but since then he appears more as a villager then anything else

I really need to reread this thread again, will probably find some time to do it tomorrow

wolf hunting for the angel gonna hunt for the angel

[wufwugy]

and ragnar curiously showed up at the last minute and bolded so as to not get modgat

[Hoopy]

errrrr pretty sure that lolzzz is not the medium at this point but is in fact a huge wolf.

He didn't look up anyone the first few nights because he didn't know the rules apparently (yeah right). Then he bolds philly and makes it look like he's found a wolf for sure

yo philly i know ur not a villager so just lets us lynch u or come out as the angel or something

I'm pretty sure the wolves were hoping/thought philly was the angel and wouldn't be able to save himself by outing, DTB outing was just the icing on the cake for them.

We need a slow day today with lots of discussion, no bolding yet.

[Shotglass]

She hasn't got a clue what she thinks, yet appears to be paying great attention to the game.

It's not that I haven't got a clue what I think. I've thought that wuf and either you or bikes are the two remaining wolves since benny got shot. I keep listening to other players who have played a lot longer than I, Gator, DTB etc, telling me that I'm wrong so I go with the flow of the village.

After last night I'd have to say it's wuf and lolzzz.

Plus that stuff about specials winning flips that DTB posted when he outed was the same shit that I posted several posts earlier, and was told I was being stupid. Soo, f-u and lynch me.

Lynch lolzzz

[supa]

I know that by the way he's playing that he seems incredibly wolfy, but why would he have fake outed when he did?

I guess that's a srsbsns question coz I don't wanna go back and look.

[wufwugy]

lolz being a wolf is actually BETTER for the village, so im not worried about that

[lolzzz_321]

lol gator is a wolf, dead philly told me so

plz lynch me u retards, im thinking its gator and shotglass?

[OngBonga]

I'm suspicious of lolz at this stage. I'm hoping someone else claims to be the medium and gives us a lynch. Agree that we should make this day last as long as possible, we lost a lot of discussion yesterday by snap-lynching philly. We should be putting heat on those who were happy to have a quick day. Bikes is looking most suspect based on yesterday's wagon, he was happy to lynch philly even if he outed himself as the angel. Fits in with the wolf plan of flushing out the angel and getting him dead. He was also quick to mock me for questioning lolz's claim hat philly was not a villager. Something about crayons? I knew there was something amiss about lolz's post, it just didn't make sense that he would be given that info. I could figure that out, I'm in my third game while bikes is a vet. Something doesn't add up.

Right now I think bikes, shotglass, lolz and gator are prime suspects.

TLR is hard to read, but I'm not sure him calling DTB wolfy is particularly damning, I had TLR as a wolf on day one last game I payed, and he was the angel. The specials often act in away that draws suspicion on them.

Finally, shotglass, we can't lynch lolz until we know he's not the medium. Hoopy has just requested no-one bolds early today, an understandable request after yesterday's snap-lynch, and you immediately bold the person who claims to be the medium, the only person making this claim at this moment. Why the hurry?

[OngBonga]

lol gator is a wolf, dead philly told me so

plz lynch me u retards, im thinking its gator and shotglass?

BOOM!!!

Now, NO SNAP LYNCHING PLEASE! Lolz could still be a wolf trying to get our strongest player lynched. If lolz isn't the medium, is now the time for the real medium to step forward?

[lolzzz_321]

oh and bikes rly is a villager