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    out of interest, how do you 24-table? ie stack? tile? cascade? and when you do 24 table how the fuck are you still able to get timing tells? i guess that means you must be tiling them right? anyhow, flatting pre seems good unless you plan to call off a shove. flop looks fine. turn i guess we can check/bomb. while AK/AQ did pick up 4 outs here, i doubt he ever bets the turn without a pair because he just can't expect us to be folding on this turn card. river i think i prefer leading because basically all of his range now has a pair, some of which he will check back. and i don't think he will ever bluff this river. so bet>check imo.

    also, i've recently switched from playing FR to predominantly 6max. i think there is certainly a more aggro dynamic in 6m, particularly amongst the regs at 50-100nl, which makes it fine to 3b/5b jam far wider and less polarised than i would be at FR because of how often/how much dead money we pick up.

    edit: oh yeah and as played i'm never folding to this river bet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rpm View Post
    out of interest, how do you 24-table? ie stack? tile? cascade? and when you do 24 table how the fuck are you still able to get timing tells? i guess that means you must be tiling them right? anyhow, flatting pre seems good unless you plan to call off a shove. flop looks fine. turn i guess we can check/bomb. while AK/AQ did pick up 4 outs here, i doubt he ever bets the turn without a pair because he just can't expect us to be folding on this turn card. river i think i prefer leading because basically all of his range now has a pair, some of which he will check back. and i don't think he will ever bluff this river. so bet>check imo.

    also, i've recently switched from playing FR to predominantly 6max. i think there is certainly a more aggro dynamic in 6m, particularly amongst the regs at 50-100nl, which makes it fine to 3b/5b jam far wider and less polarised than i would be at FR because of how often/how much dead money we pick up.

    edit: oh yeah and as played i'm never folding to this river bet.
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    Agree with all the rest - he showed me AQ ofc
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    I understand your dilemma, such a awkward spot. With that river card, esp. When he checks back the turn. I mean even still you have to win roughly 37% of the time facing that river bet and I think if he has something like AK,QQ,AA he's going to bet the river for value everytime, if he has you beat then he hit a gutter ,a 2 outer or checked back top set on the turn. Which imo he will never do. So there's only two hands that beat you in his range vs. At least 4 or 5 that u beat as played. It's pretty close as far as that goes. I don't think I'm ever folding this river, and I actually like a lead on the turn vs a check, Idk if c/raise was your plan or not but at 100nl I would just donk the turn and v-bet river if he calls.
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    Misread this as a limp first time, I don't mind your flat at all pre.

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