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  1. #676
    good shot gabe
  2. #677
    dana was a very savvy nom imo, and the savviest noms ive seen were from gator
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    gabe with the soul reads as usual. well done

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    Wow. I missed fucking loads, it's going to take some time for me to get back up to date. At first glance I'm still mega suspicious about wuf and bikes, but gator really needs scrutiny after his late vote saved wuf. Will have a reread from the start now I know Benny was a wolf.

    Good read gabe. I actually thought you were the angel, glad I'm wrong.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wufwugy View Post
    dana was a very savvy nom imo, and the savviest noms ive seen were from gator

    I save your ass from the gallows and you start off the day suggesting I get lynched.

    thanks buddy.

    so you don't think JV (who has laid low this entire game) or Warpe or even Wuf would have offed Dan last night.

    I'm not a wolf dude so let's try to spend the day finding one.

    If JV, Warpe and Ragnar don't start posting VERY soon I am going to say let's start with them.

    I also think DTB can post more content than he is and supa seems to come and go (but that could prolly be directly related to his binge drinking ).

    Btw, wuf I saved your ass because after reviewing the thread I think shotglass, you and hoopy are my top 3 candidates (beside lolzzz and gabe of course) for villager status.
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  6. #681
    Quote Originally Posted by OngBonga View Post
    but gator really needs scrutiny after his late vote saved wuf. Will have a reread from the start now I know Benny was a wolf.
    I said all along that I thought wuf was a villager more than a wolf and as I said I think wuf the villager adds more value than fulksy the villager so I gave him a shot. If that makes me suspect then so be it but you really need to wonder if Gator a wolf would be so blatant about it.
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  7. #682
    Quote Originally Posted by GatorJH View Post
    I save your ass from the gallows and you start off the day suggesting I get lynched.

    thanks buddy.

    so you don't think JV (who has laid low this entire game) or Warpe or even Wuf would have offed Dan last night.

    I'm not a wolf dude so let's try to spend the day finding one.

    If JV, Warpe and Ragnar don't start posting VERY soon I am going to say let's start with them.

    I also think DTB can post more content than he is and supa seems to come and go (but that could prolly be directly related to his binge drinking ).

    Btw, wuf I saved your ass because after reviewing the thread I think shotglass, you and hoopy are my top 3 candidates (beside lolzzz and gabe of course) for villager status.
    Naw, you're right, I do owe you one. I thought I was giving you a compliment anyways

    I owe everybody who hopped on fulksy's wagon actually. It doesn't get any more down to the wire than that
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    lolzzz we gotta hear from you before we move on
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    Gator, there's not many wolves who would have the bollocks to be so blatant, but I do believe you are capable of it. Thing is, if wuf's a wolf, you look suspect. But you know this, of course. So when wuf turns up villager, you look like a villager too. Wuf might be a villager after all.

    Now you're suggesting we start putting pressure on the inactives, who are clearly disinterested villagers, and DTB, who's one of the few people capable of reading you.

    All this after you nailed what I though was an obvious villager.

    This is fishy.
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    gator, JV was one of the first to bold benny.. why suggest lynch him? didnt do your wolf homework?
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    Inactives aren't always disinterested villagers. As we talked about before, warpe has done exactly this as a wolf before. Does that mean he's a wolf now? No, but he's high on my suspect list because of it.

    Although I thought the same thing about Gabe so yeah, fuck me.

    Waiting for lolzzz is obv the best line to take now tho.
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    ^ Hopefully he didn't look up benny lol.
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    JV bolded Benny shortly after and because of what I said about Benny, I think
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    Quote Originally Posted by OngBonga View Post
    Gator, there's not many wolves who would have the bollocks to be so blatant, but I do believe you are capable of it. Thing is, if wuf's a wolf, you look suspect. But you know this, of course. So when wuf turns up villager, you look like a villager too. Wuf might be a villager after all.
    So if wuf is a villager I am a wolf?

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    Now you're suggesting we start putting pressure on the inactives, who are clearly disinterested villagers, and DTB, who's one of the few people capable of reading you.
    If we don't put pressure on the inactives that will become the defacto standard for the wolves, and has already proven to be effective in a few past games iirc.

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    All this after you nailed what I though was an obvious villager.

    uhhhh, I am not the only one who thought he could be a wolf.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gabe View Post
    lolzzz we gotta hear from you before we move on

    look at the timing of my post. Does it really look like I have taken the time yet to look through the thread?
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  16. #691
    Well, rag is obviously a villager at least, and the others now realise they're flirting with the coin if they remain inactive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GatorJH View Post
    So if wuf is a villager I am a wolf?
    Fuck knows. You're both capable of sick levels. I haven't read through thoroughly yet, so I'm just ejaculating my initial thoughts, but you are definitely suspect. I wouldn't be at all surprised if you did that vote deliberately as a villager so you can get away with it in the future as a wolf.

    I wanna hear DTB's thoughts.
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    i agree with gator about the inactives. it sucks if 2 wolves are just lurking to make it to the end game.

    i also think if the wolves had all been very active, they would need a wolf spokesman to convince the village to go after the quiet ones
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    And I'm back. I'm not going to apologize for going AFK, for the last 60+ hours. I had a family emergency. Long story short, a family got hit by another family member, and we had to move her out of his house.

    Now, as far as what's going on. What an absolute shit storm of a day we had yesterday. Lollzzzz outing, I was here for that, Gabe outing, lolwut?

    Waiting for Lolzzzzzzzz is a good idea, and I'm starting to wonder if the Ong/Wuf epic battle is going to kick back up.
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    Super importantly, I want to know why Ong jumped off the "look, kill wuf, and if you do, it obviously means I'm a wolf" logic line he was on. This is such a comitted argument, and now it seems he's forgotten he even made it. Is this some sort of epic level?
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    Not entirely interested in waiting for lolz since it might be end of tomorrow he shows up
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    uh oh gabe
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    the wolves went after danarong because he was on the list, they thought he was the angel
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ragnar4 View Post
    Super importantly, I want to know why Ong jumped off the "look, kill wuf, and if you do, it obviously means I'm a wolf" logic line he was on. This is such a comitted argument, and now it seems he's forgotten he even made it. Is this some sort of epic level?
    I'm not following you... what would you likeme to explain?
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    Good shot, Gabe.
    Glad to see you're still here, wuf.

    Quote Originally Posted by GatorJH View Post
    If JV, Warpe and Ragnar don't start posting VERY soon I am going to say let's start with them.

    I also think DTB can post more content than he is and supa seems to come and go (but that could prolly be directly related to his binge drinking ).
    I agree with putting pressure on the inactives.
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    Nice shot Gabe. And Benny was on the wufwugy wagon with us so I suppose that could nominally clear wuf for now, although misdirection is always in play.

    Hrm.

    Whenever someone says something is 'clear' I get suspicious.
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    Hey look. there's warpe. Now how bout philly?
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    Quote Originally Posted by OngBonga View Post
    I'm not following you... what would you likeme to explain?
    Why you're no longer willing to offer yourself up as a sacrifice to prove wuf is a wolf.

    why would you get into a mega pissing match only to let it cool off.

    I've been in pissing matches with Wuf, before... it's the hardest pissing match to let die. 3 days later, and he and I still hate eachother... You letting go seems.... bad.
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    Wuf, why were you going after Gabe so hard when his role would be made clear by the end of the day?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shotglass View Post
    Wuf, why were you going after Gabe so hard when his role would be made clear by the end of the day?
    Because for a time it was either him or me, and there were about a million reasons why his outing was likely fake
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    I'm still not entirely convinced gabe is the vig. I'm not gonna try to argue that he's not, and he very probably is, but mannnnnn some of that outing was just wrong
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    I guess it's just that gabisms are very real things
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    Read back thru most of the thread. Wuf is either a villager or there is some srsly sick levelling going on here.

    So for me it's wuf, gabe, lolzzz and hoopy being villagers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wufwugy View Post
    I'm still not entirely convinced gabe is the vig. I'm not gonna try to argue that he's not, and he very probably is, but mannnnnn some of that outing was just wrong
    If gabe isn't the vig then the real vig is a dick. That or some kind of mad genius that I'll never understand. Or Bigred.
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    that would make bigred a zombie - nice!

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    Quote Originally Posted by wufwugy View Post
    I'm still not entirely convinced gabe is the vig. I'm not gonna try to argue that he's not, and he very probably is, but mannnnnn some of that outing was just wrong
    And I'm not entirely convinced that you are a villager, right now 60/40.

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    Quote Originally Posted by supa View Post
    Hey look. there's warpe. Now how bout philly?
    hey bud....epic day yesterday, i still would have rather seen wuf go over fulksy because fulksy hadnt posted in like days so i figured it was pretty safe he was a villager. I said yesterday i wanted to see Benny gone after wuf, so im glad that he came back a wolf.

    Still not sold on wuf's villagerness but im not going to start barking up that tree just yet.

    I agree that dan a probably got killed because he was on that list, that means i should be one of the next to go, so ill try and contribute as much this day as possible.

    I really need to go back and re read everything, but as of now im leaning towards supa being a wolf. Just a hunch really -____-
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    Supa: He fits the wolf profile.. not exactly trying to logic thigns out.. saying shit without backing it up. I've got to agree with Philly here. I'm not sold on Supa being a villager.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OngBonga View Post
    Gator, there's not many wolves who would have the bollocks to be so blatant, but I do believe you are capable of it. Thing is, if wuf's a wolf, you look suspect. But you know this, of course. So when wuf turns up villager, you look like a villager too. Wuf might be a villager after all.
    This sorta stuff very rarely actually pans out to be true.
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    Awesome.
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    if the medium is not lolzzz they should out themselves

    also thanks for saving me last night angel!
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    Quote Originally Posted by gabe View Post
    if the medium is not lolzzz they should out themselves

    also thanks for saving me last night angel!
    Nice shot Gabe

    I need to reread thru the entire thread to try to figure what the heck is going on

    Given that Benny was a high profile wolf I think it is very likely that at least one of the remaining wolves was a low profile wolf.

    Philly is becoming more and more suspecious, and I think he is currently my top wolf suspect

    JV is so out of his element this game that it is just wierd, it seems too obvious if he was a wolf, which makes me doubt that.

    I was really surprised at Gator's move at the end of the day to save Wuf, but I doubt he would do such a move as a wolf


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    I think we should wait for Lolllz to post, however if the info he has is one of a villager I dont think he should post it


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ragnar4 View Post
    Why you're no longer willing to offer yourself up as a sacrifice to prove wuf is a wolf.

    why would you get into a mega pissing match only to let it cool off.

    I've been in pissing matches with Wuf, before... it's the hardest pissing match to let die. 3 days later, and he and I still hate eachother... You letting go seems.... bad.
    I cooled off yesterday (ww) for one reason... I was busy. Then when I come back, there's actual info to sift through, there's load of new shit to take in. If people wanna lynch me because I'm leaving him alone at the moment, knock youselves out. When you see I'm a villager, you'll know to keep the heat on the likes of wuf, bikes and gator. I'm also starting to think shotglass could be a wolf, she's acting a bit weird.

    I'll be back at my home computer later, where I can refer to my notes. That's when I intend to have a good read of the thread.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TLR View Post
    I was really surprised at Gator's move at the end of the day to save Wuf, but I doubt he would do such a move as a wolf
    Everyone doubts he would pull of such a move as a wolf, which is why he could be a wolf.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TLR View Post
    however if the info he has is one of a villager I dont think he should post it
    definitely. If we can get to the point where the medium has 3 solid names I think we are golden.
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    Quote Originally Posted by philly and the phanatics View Post
    but as of now im leaning towards supa being a wolf. Just a hunch really -____-
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    Supa: He fits the wolf profile.. not exactly trying to logic thigns out.. saying shit without backing it up. I've got to agree with Philly here. I'm not sold on Supa being a villager.

    Supa has been high on my wolf list for a couple of days so I could be on board with that lynch.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OngBonga View Post
    Everyone doubts he would pull of such a move as a wolf, which is why he could be a wolf.
    Agreed that you can go as deep as you want in levels and each one will bring you to a different conclusion, howver there are 3 scenarios

    1. Wuf is a wolf; Gator is a wolf - since Gator forced a tie it was a 50/50 flip between Wuf and Fulsky, and if Wuf would die Gator knew he will at least be looked up very soon
    2. Wuf is a villager, Gator is a wolf - this is more sensible in a sense, in sort of a 'he would not do it if he was a wolf' but it still draws attention and suspecion on him, which may result in a lookup with little to gain
    3. Gator is a villager and through Wuf is a villager - the simplest explanation of his behavior


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    Quote Originally Posted by TLR View Post
    Agreed that you can go as deep as you want in levels and each one will bring you to a different conclusion, howver there are 3 scenarios

    1. Wuf is a wolf; Gator is a wolf - since Gator forced a tie it was a 50/50 flip between Wuf and Fulsky, and if Wuf would die Gator knew he will at least be looked up very soon
    2. Wuf is a villager, Gator is a wolf - this is more sensible in a sense, in sort of a 'he would not do it if he was a wolf' but it still draws attention and suspecion on him, which may result in a lookup with little to gain
    3. Gator is a villager and through Wuf is a villager - the simplest explanation of his behavior
    This is pretty much why I've let up on wuf thus far today, I don't see them both being wolves (though they obv could be). I think gator can do this though to gain villager cred when we string up wuf and discover he's a villager, though.

    You missed one potential conclusion...
    4. Gator is a villager and wuf is a wolf - I think balancing his villager game is part of his thought process.

    He knows that his move last night is going to get him attention, he's stupid if he thinks it won't, and we all know he's not stupid. Why did he do it? He should know that fulksy gives us very little info, where wuf is an avalanche.
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    Nice soulread gabe.

    Hopefully lolz posts soon, I'm feeling suspicious of philly and JV atm Warpe as well to some extent.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OngBonga View Post
    I cooled off yesterday (ww) for one reason... I was busy. Then when I come back, there's actual info to sift through, there's load of new shit to take in. If people wanna lynch me because I'm leaving him alone at the moment, knock youselves out. When you see I'm a villager, you'll know to keep the heat on the likes of wuf, bikes and gator. I'm also starting to think shotglass could be a wolf, she's acting a bit weird.

    I'll be back at my home computer later, where I can refer to my notes. That's when I intend to have a good read of the thread.
    After re-reading through this thread there is one thing that wuf posted that has me pretty sold about him being a villager. Going from that, I doubt that Gator would make that blatant a move as a wolf. Prolly just the same thing I was thinking "what the hell, at least wuf is participating."

    Bikes is fishy, but I doubt that as a wolf he would have complained about Gabe outing so early.
    Supa is really suspicious: a lot of posts and little infomation.

    But one thing that you wrote has had me concerned since I read it. During your attack on wuf, you wrote
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    Morning. So wuf is going to wriggle his neck out of the noose huh? How did he manage that? By screaming "stop following the noob"? There's a few egos battling with me here, I get the impression that certain people would rather us string up a random because they don't want to see me nail a wolf. My case against wuf is not ego, it's not balance, it's me thinking that I got the sucker figured out. Seriously, if he shows up as a villager, I will take it as a slap down and shut the fuck up this early in the future. If he turns up a wolf, well I guess I got lucky again blah blah.

    I got nothing more to add until we know what wuf is. I'm not interested in arguing with people about soulreading. No-one gave rilla this shit when he owned the wolves last game.
    Seriously, man. The only reason that you would refer to 'rilla in that post is to add credence to your claims. It's just the sort of day 1 & 2 level that wuf would coach you through so that he could brag about it later, but following what I wrote above about wuf, bikes and Gator, I'm more likely to believe that you were being coached by Benny.

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    It's interesting that you come firing at me no sooner do I announce I think you might be a wolf.

    I mentioned rilla because I felt that the village were giving my opinion less credit than they do for some of the regs... I understand why, of course, rilla is epic at this game and I'm a noob... but I felt at the time that the village were allowing the wolves to derail the wuf wagon by discreditting early soul reads. I wanted him strung up, at the time I thought he was like 70% wolf, and when he's a villager we get tons of info.

    Truth is, I wasn't soulreading, I was generating discussion. I'm playing the game here, just because I said "he's a wolf" doesn't mean I think he's a wolf, I might just want to see who agrees with me. I didn't think gabe was a wolf, I thought he needs heat so he doesn't get nommed. And bikes just ties in nicely with wuf, or at least he did yesterday.

    It's interesting you think I'm being coached by benny... very interesting that you would suggest it. Quick, before someone suggests you were being coached by him. He's dead now, who helped you with that post? wuf or gator?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shotglass View Post
    I'm more likely to believe that you were being coached by Benny.
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    who helped you with that post? wuf or gator?
    Wow! I thought that you were a bit more advanced than to attempt this.

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    Oh, are you thinking these guys are new? Bikes has played a bunch in the past. Shotglass, just once, in the last game, and it seems he wasn't horrible. So, he's the newest in a game of veterans but not an obvious disservice to the village and besides, I prefer lynching quiet guys and coasters to new guys at the moment - you get tons of information from new guys.
    I thought this was odd at the time, not because of the constant use of "he" (which a wolf would do for sure) but mainly because I'm aware of at least two games, actually maybe three, that shotglass has been involved in, yet shotglass did not feel it relevant to point that out. This post link shotglass to benny imo.

    Quote Originally Posted by Shotglass View Post
    He's got my vote if red's a villager, followed by benny and Gator.
    If ya remember I voted for Red to begin with. (just something about that avatar tilts me)
    This is the second time in a short space of time you mention benny and gator.

    Quote Originally Posted by Shotglass View Post
    You made a good point about wuf, benny and Gator with which I completely agree...
    This confused me, but I kept on at wuf and didn't bring it up. I mentioned nothing about wuf, benny and gator, so why did you say I did? This after you keep mentioning benny and gator.

    I'll be back on your case shortly, next up benny and gator...
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    Quote Originally Posted by BennyLaRue View Post
    Haha, karma. That'll teach you to turn your coat, your turncoaty turncoat.

    Good result for us but not sure what information the votes provide us since we lynched the one guy acting solo. The wolves could have pushed for the lynch without realizing their mistake on the basis of bigred being a somewhat good player.

    The late timing of Dan's Hoopy rescind and bigred vote is odd though, with a quick backtrack and long post right after that could either be genuine rambling or someone trying to hide the fact that he just cut Hoopy's chances of dying down to a coinflip, complete with HTC joke to make it all look hahaha.

    http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...ml#post2053515
    next post, five minutes later...

    Quote Originally Posted by GatorJH View Post
    That is EXACTLY what I was thinking.

    As for Wuf, I guess he could be a wolf as much as he could be just trying to balance his playing style.


    lollzzz was pretty damn quiet during day 1 and I still don't get a good vibe from Bikes so those four top my suspect list at the moment
    Shotglass posts 4 minutes later, adding his vote and some evidence against wuf.

    Quote Originally Posted by GatorJH View Post
    Wuf's silence is puzzling and we need to get some more people posting.

    As I mentioned before lolzzz is way too quiet for being the vet he is so I am going to go with a lynch lolzzz for now to see if that prompts something out of him
    Wuf's silence wasn't puzzling, he was offline at the same time the previous day. Even I have a life, sometimes people are busy. More pressure on wuf, but a little more subtle.

    I'm only on page 5 of 15. I'm really thinking it's shotglass and gator.
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    Wow, man. You need to lay off the weed 'cause it's fucked up your memory. This is only my second game.

    Quote Originally Posted by OngBonga View Post
    I thought this was odd at the time, not because of the constant use of "he" (which a wolf would do for sure) but mainly because I'm aware of at least two games, actually maybe three, that shotglass has been involved in, yet shotglass did not feel it relevant to point that out. This post link shotglass to benny imo.



    This is the second time in a short space of time you mention benny and gator.



    This confused me, but I kept on at wuf and didn't bring it up. I mentioned nothing about wuf, benny and gator, so why did you say I did? This after you keep mentioning benny and gator.

    I'll be back on your case shortly, next up benny and gator...
    You never mentioned benny and gator, how about this:
    Quote Originally Posted by OngBonga View Post
    DTB did not make a case against boog, he made a case against fulksy and hoopy. Wuf took it as a case against boog, and bolds DTB as a result. Suspect, if you ask me.

    Benny defends wuf and then bolds hoopy.

    Gabe unbolds wuf and bolds hoopy when the heat was piling on wuf.

    Gator defends wuf then goes for bikes.

    Wilbur unbolds wuf and goes for bikes.

    Boog doesn't like a wuf lynch.

    Overall, I think lynching either bikes or wuf gives us by far the most information, certainly more than what we'd normally expect to get from a day one lynch. I'm sticking with wuf, and if he's a wolf, we should string up bikes very quickly and look at the info we have from that.
    and this:

    Quote Originally Posted by OngBonga View Post
    Gator is too hard to read, especially this early. Benny is a little suspect, but not top of my list.
    But what concerns me most is that when Gabe bolded JV on day 2 this happened 20 minutes later:

    Quote Originally Posted by OngBonga View Post
    wft? From what I have seen, JV is every bit as useful as wuf. I'm happy to lay off JV for a while, since there's what I see as an obvious lynch choice in wuf, and JV worries wolves so much that he's only suspect to me if he hasn't been nommed after a few nights.

    Gabe, I'm not wannabe soul reader, I'm wannabe village win. If wuf turns up as a wolf, you're bang on my radar. I've had you in my suspicious camp since pretty much the beginning, only there's wolfier targets right now in wuf, bikes and hoopy. Going for JV makes me think you might be a better lynch than bikes.
    and two minutes later:

    Quote Originally Posted by BennyLaRue View Post
    I echo the comments that JV is a strong villager, soulreading mofo extraordinaire.

    Jack, what's up that you're not participating very much?
    It would make sense to have one active and one quiet wolf remaining.

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    If wuf is a villager I think I'll be next!
    Prophetic?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shotglass View Post
    Prophetic?
    Maybe! I was expecting to die if wuf was lynched and turned up a villager, chance I was taking I guess. But, whatever, I'm not afraid of getting lynched, because then I become a confirmed villager and the village narrow the potential wolf field down. I appreciate I'm in the wolfy camp for some people, my death will provide info.

    It seems I do need to lay off the weed, I could swear you were involved in at least one of my two other games, but not so. Lol I'm just rolling another spliff now.

    Still think you're a wolf though. Your last post was coached. I'm making some mistakes, such as assuming you played with me before, and forgetting shit I said. Would I do that as a wolf? You're making some mistakes too, but instead of accepting them, you're deflecting attention.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OngBonga View Post
    Your last post was coached...
    A few people were saying that about me during last game also, but I just take it as a compliment that my posts seem that way.

    Oh yeah, I'd be stupid to deny that I'm making any mistakes.

    I'm not gonna bold yet, but you and JV are high on my list right now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OngBonga View Post
    I'm making some mistakes, such as assuming you played with me before, and forgetting shit I said. Would I do that as a wolf?
    Maybe not but wolves would gloss over details in an attempt to deflect attention.

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    Going after JV just looks suspicious to me... the guy is flirting with modkill, he's too much of a respected vet to play this way as a wolf. The only inactive that is on my radar is philly, all the others are obviously villagers, the wolf role doesn't come along very often and these regs would relish the chance to level the village. Let them be modkilled, it's better than wasting a lynch imo. I'd soonerpeople lynch me than an inactive.
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    AHAHA just read bennys post where he says he's the angel
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    Shotglass defending gator is kinda odd?
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    Shotglass falling off the wuf wagon after following my lead so strongly is kinda odd.
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    Eh, true but I see only two options with Gator

    1. Casting the saving vote for wuf in the last few minutes is bound to draw some attention. I doubt that Gator would pull something like that as a wolf this early

    2. I'm totally off base and Gator pulled that move for some protection

    I'm a noob but I'm thinking it's more in line with # 1 than # 2.

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    Ong and Sg are giving me a headache and it's too early in the morning for that. Wanna here from those I've listed as villagers before I add much of anything to the thread. Wolves have an easy wagon setting up for me so for now I'll just say I'm a villager and lynching me wouldn't help the game.

    Ragnar, what info would you like me to back up?
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    Quote Originally Posted by lolzzz_321 View Post
    sup, i didn't tap anyone last night because they both suck (fulksy and willbur)
    you do realize they have a lookup, so you can ask them who they looked up and what they got

    I have to say that you are a much better mod then a medium


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    also lynch philly


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    Point #1 - following ww on my blackberry sucks so whoever invented site blocking can kiss my ass.

    Point #2 - its hard to do detailed analysis on my blackberry so please don't fault me if I misstate something right now but here goes.....

    How in the hell can I be a wolf when I am being tied to, what seems like, 3-4 different sets of wolf groups. It seems like I am either coaching, guiding, or influencing everybody who is a wolf candidate.

    For christ sake this alone should signal to anyone who has half a brain that the likelyhood of me being a wolf in this game is not that high.

    Then combine that with all of the "Gator is bold enough to do blah, blah, blah" and it is very frustrating why you guys think I am the only player capable of leveling the village.

    I am a freakin villager people and, imo, there is at least one of the two wolves out there who are trying to put the focus on me so a) the focus isn't on them and b) it increases their chances of getting me lynched.

    Wake up villagers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OngBonga View Post
    Shotglass falling off the wuf wagon after following my lead so strongly is kinda odd.
    I gave my reasons for switching to Gabe in this post:
    http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...ml#post2054171
    But I'll show my hand. It was this post by wuf that changed my mind:
    http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...ml#post2054344
    or more directly, one setence in that post.
    But this post that I wrote after Benny fake outted should have made it clear that I was looking at someone other than wuf:
    Quote Originally Posted by Shotglass View Post
    Gabe to prove himself should still shoot benny...sorry.
    If Gabe's not the vig then obv the real one shoots gabe and if benny don't get nommed then he;s prime wolf suspect, imo.
    Because of these posts and I would like for you and Hoopy to try to explain this:
    Quote Originally Posted by Hoopy View Post
    Right first impressions are Gabe is looking very wolfy posting about the mechanics of the game (which he's knows right?) and technicalities, makes him look active without saying much.

    Ong and Benny look like solid villagers to me.

    Not sure on wuf, will read back another couple of pages.

    lynch Gabe
    Why would Hoopy lump you in with Benny? As a distraction or a mis-step?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hoopy View Post
    I don't see Benny as a wolf tbh, much rather we lynch wuf and try to gather info from that or JV/supa.

    lolz is the medium in case you didn't know.
    2nd time that Hoopy has defended Benny.
    Ong's disappeared.
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    following gabe

    lynch DanA
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    Yeah it doesn't seem too likely.

    Maybe the best play today is to lynch fulksy and use the ton of info we'll have after tonight to make better decisions?
    It doesn't matter which one that Hoopy bolds or gets a BW going on because he knows that they're all villagers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TLR View Post
    you do realize they have a lookup, so you can ask them who they looked up and what they got

    I have to say that you are a much better mod then a medium
    Damn guys, sorry, I just realized this.
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    I could go with lynching either Ong, Hoopy or an inactive player but I won't bold for now

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    I'm down with lynching philly. I think he would never play this way as a villager.

    Agree with gator on all points. People coming up with crazy scenarios just because they think others can pull off massive levels are just adding confusion to the game, at least for me anyway.
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