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  1. #1

    Default 5NL: FH - bet size on river (deep stacks)

    THis was a nice hand for me, haven't had too many lately.

    Just wondering if I should have just shoved the river, or is he going to fold too often. We were both pretty deep and obv i wanted his whole stack in there.
    I bet pretty soft on the turn just in case he was on a FD, I wanted to give him the chance to hit it. Once he raised me I was sure he had the 10, so ya, bet sizing once he raises me on the turn...???

    PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.05 BB (7 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

    saw flop

    CO ($0.27)
    Hero (Button) ($9.69)
    SB ($10.94)
    BB ($2)
    UTG ($11.08)
    MP1 ($4.65)
    MP2 ($2.18)

    Preflop: Hero is Button with 4, 4
    UTG bets $0.10, 3 folds, Hero calls $0.10, SB calls $0.08, 1 fold

    Flop: ($0.35) 10, 4, 2 (3 players)
    SB checks, UTG checks, Hero bets $0.25, SB calls $0.25, 1 fold

    Turn: ($0.85) 10 (2 players)
    SB checks, Hero bets $0.45, SB raises to $0.90, Hero raises to $2.10, SB calls $1.20

    River: ($5.05) 5 (2 players)
    SB checks, Hero bets $3.95, SB calls $3.95

    Total pot: $12.95 | Rake: $0.63
  2. #2
    Here's another bet sizing question from that session...
    Villain is pretty solid at 14/7 over 230 hands

    I know, turn raise ....ew.

    PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.05 BB (9 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

    saw flop

    Button ($1.11)
    SB ($5.90)
    Hero (BB) ($5)
    UTG ($6.90)
    UTG+1 ($2.59)
    MP1 ($5.02)
    MP2 ($5.32)
    MP3 ($6)
    CO ($7.54)

    Preflop: Hero is BB with A, K
    5 folds, CO calls $0.05, 1 fold, SB calls $0.03, Hero bets $0.25, 1 fold, SB calls $0.20

    Flop: ($0.55) 7, 6, 5 (2 players)
    SB checks, Hero checks

    Turn: ($0.55) A (2 players)
    SB bets $0.34, Hero raises to $0.68, SB calls $0.34

    River: ($1.91) K (2 players)
    SB checks, Hero bets ??????)
  3. #3
    Hand 1 just bet bigger everywhere. 30 cents on the flop, 75 on turn, then the hand plays itself.

    even as played you can probably shove the river, whatever he called the turn with, he's not folding.
    Playing big pots at small stakes.
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    ship the river no one one folds a T

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    hand 1 is an absolutely awesome spot to just overbet the shit out of it. villain's range is either super strong and never folding (Tx) or not very strong at all (any two pair hand) and rarely paying us off. bomb the turn to like $3.40 and jam river.
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    2nd hand I'd bet $1.50 on river.
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    hand 1 - pre good. Flop good. First turn bet too small. River too small.
    hand 2 - turn min raise is bad.
  8. #8
    Quote Originally Posted by nonofyobiz View Post
    THis was a nice hand for me, haven't had too many lately.

    Just wondering if I should have just shoved the river, or is he going to fold too often. We were both pretty deep and obv i wanted his whole stack in there.
    I bet pretty soft on the turn just in case he was on a FD, I wanted to give him the chance to hit it. Once he raised me I was sure he had the 10, so ya, bet sizing once he raises me on the turn...???

    PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.05 BB (7 handed) -

    saw flop

    CO ($0.27)
    Hero (Button) ($9.69)
    SB ($10.94)
    BB ($2)
    UTG ($11.08)
    MP1 ($4.65)
    MP2 ($2.18)

    Preflop: Hero is Button with 4, 4
    UTG bets $0.10, 3 folds, Hero calls $0.10, SB calls $0.08, 1 fold

    Flop: ($0.35) 10, 4, 2 (3 players)
    SB checks, UTG checks, Hero bets $0.25, SB calls $0.25, 1 fold

    Turn: ($0.85) 10 (2 players)
    SB checks, Hero bets $0.45, SB raises to $0.90, Hero raises to $2.10, SB calls $1.20

    River: ($5.05) 5 (2 players)
    SB checks, Hero bets $3.95, SB calls $3.95

    Total pot: $12.95 | Rake: $0.63
    Missing out on river value is the biggest leak you can have at the micro stakes. You should set yourself up for the river shove on the turn. Raise more on the turn so you dont have to overshove the river OR miss some value for not getting your whole stack in.

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