OP: Make Penneywize Not Suck At Omaha

[bikes]

running 10,20,50,100 bi below ev in plo is std. get used to it.

[Penneywize]

running 10,20,50,100 bi below ev in plo is std. get used to it.

I think the silver lining behind this may be that bad players who run good can stick around the game a lot more than bad holdem players. Any truth to this, you think?

[dneureiter]

I think the silver lining behind this may be that bad players who run good can stick around the game a lot more than bad holdem players. Any truth to this, you think?

Yea it makes logical sense to me. I think the same applies in large field mtts vs sngs. Also omaha is just a more "fun" and "action" game from a fish perspective. I really notice this dealing and playing lol dealer sessions of omaha live. anyways GL will follow I started occasionally playing 10plo on stars so maybe I'll see you there.

[Penneywize]

Alright, guess it's that time of the month... as in time to post my lolgraph



overall I ran pretty shitty, but as I played more and more and kept up with my studying I feel I have become a lot more comfortable, not hemorrhaging money calling lighter than I should on the river, finding situations to pull off low risk bluffs etc. My redline (not pictured) evens out considerably in the last 2k hands, probably due to playing tighter oop and not creating large pots that I ultimately end up folding... that kind of thing.

I think that is it for me at 2 PLO. I'm going to deposit about 150$ or so and revise the OP as I said I might. The rake is, as advertised, ridiculously high and, while beatable, I feel I have accomplished what I wanted to accomplish at this level and it's time to move on to greener pastures.

My goals for this month are to play roughly 5 to 6 times as many hands i.e. at least 25-30k total, and hopefully beat 5plo and be on my way through 10plo, time permitting. I will also need to finish up the 2 X 6 video series (I have a doc with about 4500 words worth of notes on the first 5 videos alone) and continue along with the PLO from scratch articles - which, to date, have been nothing short of invaluable.

[Penneywize]

Started playing 5PLO, so far so good. Still running poorly, but it seems that since I am generally playing uber deep (250bb), all-in spots with cards to come seem to be less frequent. This is obviously helped by the fact that I'm selecting tables with usually multiple deep players; especially those with very weird stack sizes i.e. I tend to look for tables where there is at least one super-deep stack... this usually means another player at the table has been stacked already and may be somewhat tilty, and since the players doing the stacking generally suck themselves it's pretty much win-win.

I decided I'll start posting more hands in this thread. Here are a few fun hands from my first complete 5PLO session:

$0.02/$0.05 Pot Limit Omaha Hi
PokerStars
6 Players
Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG bayern999 ($3.36)
UTG+1 dtroitwt ($9.27)
CO Penneywize ($19.79)
BTN blakas1 ($17.49)
SB 9SKIPX ($9.64)
BB 0legik ($13.63)

Pre-Flop: ($0.07, 6 players) Penneywize is CO
1 fold, dtroitwt raises to $0.17, Penneywize calls $0.17, 1 fold, 9SKIPX calls $0.15, 1 fold

Flop: ($0.56, 3 players)
9SKIPX checks, dtroitwt checks, Penneywize checks

Turn: ($0.56, 3 players)
9SKIPX checks, dtroitwt bets $0.45, Penneywize raises to $1.89, 9SKIPX folds, dtroitwt calls $1.44

River: ($4.34, 2 players)
dtroitwt bets $4.13, Penneywize folds

Final Pot: $8.47

dtroitwt wins $8.26 (net +$2.07)

Penneywize lost $2.06
9SKIPX lost $0.17

Thoughts: pre is fairly std, I didn't have much reads on dtroit other than that he seemed rather passive (ran something like 35/14) and I like calling in position here rather than potentially having to fold to a 4bet from AAxx. His range here looks a lot like my own, and since he's generally just going to be playing his cards anyway I'd rather see if I can outflop him with some type of strong 2p, set, or combo draw. Further, I can bet out most dry flops when checked to and expect to take it down a good percentage of the time.

Flop: I didn't see much value to betting here, board is incredibly wet and with two opponents in the hand and potentially drawing to nut straights or flushes, I didn't stand a great chance of folding out better holdings, and getting literally no value with my overpair, except from maybe Jxxx type hands with flush draws that are both A: unlikely and B: probably ahead of me anyway.

Turn: incredibly standard imo, I turn gin and have flush redraws; great spot to be in overall. with villain flatting, his range is likely K9xx, some sets and some flush draws with two pair. part of the time he has AKxx but I really discount this since a player at this level would probably get all 'NUTS OMG OMG ARR IN!!!' on me in a spot like this.

River: again, super standard. another read I have is that villain was playing a relatively large number of tables (I think 6 to 8 or so) and that his bet came very quickly. I just can't fathom this being a huge river bluff ever; not from a passive and not from someone playing as many tables as he was. So, when the board pairs and a pot sized bet comes out, there really is no question here.

[Penneywize]

Another fun one:

$0.02/$0.05 Pot Limit Omaha Hi
PokerStars
5 Players
Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG blakas1 ($14.20)
CO 9SKIPX ($13.82)
BTN Ydna75 ($12.33)
SB VARDIZAO ($13.92)
BB Penneywize ($12.50)

Pre-Flop: ($0.07, 5 players) Penneywize is BB
2 folds, Ydna75 calls $0.05, VARDIZAO raises to $0.20, Penneywize calls $0.15, Ydna75 calls $0.15

Flop: ($0.60, 3 players)
VARDIZAO bets $0.57, Penneywize calls $0.57, Ydna75 folds

Turn: ($1.74, 2 players)
VARDIZAO bets $1.66, Penneywize calls $1.66

River: ($5.06, 2 players)
VARDIZAO bets $2.50, Penneywize calls $2.50

Final Pot: $10.06

Results omitted!

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Starting with reads: SB has been running a ridiculous 85/38 with a 25% 3-bet percentage over a smallish sample, so he struck me as rather spewy and I didn't take his pfr too seriously. In retrospect I probably should have repopped against his weakish range, even with a raggy AAxx, especially given that I'd probably get a fold from the rather loose CO (55/12 or something) which would give me position post.

Flop: villain's bet seemed really off to me here. A more straightforward player would probably not even donk out their strongest holdings i.e. sets, and likely not with that type of sizing. His range is of course rather wide given history and reads, but it's hard to imagine this board texture hitting his range that hard at all. At best he has binked two pair, possibly with a three-broadway w/ a dangler type hand like AJT6. Overall however his range looks like a lot of air with crappy draws, so I decide to call one off here. I expect BUT to fold all but sets in this spot so I'm not too worried about him either.

Turn: the K does complete a bunch of two pair hands for our villain - his most likely holdings at this point in my view - but with the nut flush draw and two pair and top set outs I am not terribly worried. He could also be firing with pair + gutshots or pairs + weaker flush draws. The only thing i'm legitimately crushed by here is a made set on the flop, which as stated is an unlikely holding given his line.

River: villain fires again, this time with a sort of fishy sizing of a 1/2 pot. given my previous reads / line I can't realistically call off two streets and then fold to a smallish bet when my hand improves significantly. I've now got all his two pair holdings crushed, and since no obvious draws completed + funky sizing I think a call is a decent play. I feel like if he had some type of two pair hand that turned into a boat, or some other weird 6xxx hand (somehow?) he would size differently here. Combine all this with my line looking uber weird and drawy, leading villain to believe my range is rather weak etc, and it's not even close imo.

Thoughts on this hand? How do you feel about my estimates of villain's range throughout? How's my line / thought process in this hand?