DOJ Werewolf

[GatorJH]

my quick thoughts (in case I die tonight) are related to wuf's quote that made me believe SDM wasn't a wolf. If wuf was that bold then he may have also been bold enough to throw out a lynch vote for a fellow wolf as well to try and gain separation.

In that line of thought he voted for fulksy, IIRC, when there were plenty of other votes out there he could have gone with. Fulksy seems to be wolfish to me, but I keep hesitating because I keep wondering why wuf would do that. Based on SDM potentially being a wolf that changes things up and fulksy could be one as well.

[rong]

If SDM is a wolf, I don't think he played that badly. If he's a vullager, then he is just usless.

[BennyLaRue]

If SDM is a wolf, this post of wuf's could become important:

http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...ml#post2032853

He points out 6 ppl, Roid, fulksy, DTB, Labour, flomo, and SDM.

Roid, he simply accuses of being a wolf. We know he wasn't.
Fulksy, he wavers, could be a wolf, might not be.
DTB, he wavers. We'll know tomorrow what he is.
Flomo, he simply accuses of being a wolf.
SDM, he wavers.

I see this as a positioning post, providing an excuse for wavering on certain ppl. This could exonerate flomo and implicate fulksy. Again, if SDM is a wolf, it would be human nature not to place the two wolves next to each other in a list containing some lies. As well, he isn't providing himself a reason to not vote for flomo, he's simply accusing him.

[philly and the phanatics]

where is big red ridinghood

[BennyLaRue]

where is big red ridinghood

Cufflink emergency, imo.

[philly and the phanatics]

SDM's biggest slip up imo is being like "everyone thought ong bonga was a special" when nobody had even said close to that....obviously one of his wolf buddies said it in their den.

[rong]

I dunno, looking back I was right with my initial thoughts I think. His behavior if a wolf was odd but almost made sense. As a villager its ridiculous.

[fulksy]

looking back at votes and previous posts my list of villagers/wolves changes a bit :
VILLAGERS:
-Dan A
-TLR
-HOOPY
-PHILLY
-FLOMO
-500LB
-CARROTERS

WOlVES:
-GATOR
-BOOG

?
-FLOMO
-WILLBUR

[fulksy]

EDIT : Villager now includes DTB, this is based on SDM being a wolf.

[BooG690]

Nothing's confirmed. Again, I wouldn't be surprised if SDM was just being a troll with his 'ARROOO' post.

[StillDeadMoney]

I have been informed that in the past that after an ARROOOO went out and the thread took a while to get locked, the ARROOOer rescinded.

I rescind. Sorry guys, I'm a regular villager. I expected the thread to be locked minutes after I posted and for the village to be informed almost immediately, but it looks like bigred is busy.

[bigred]

Busy day folks, thanks to whoever locked thread

Final Votes:

SDM 9
TLR 2
Boog 1

[bigred]

SDM, a regular poker player, left the game the same way he entered...an lolcat and no dignity.



13 players with manies in their accounts:


a500lbgorilla
HoopyDude
Philly and the Phanatics
Flomo
Carroters
Boog690
GatorJH
DanAronG
DropTheBanana
BennyLaRue
TLR
Willburforce
Fulksy


Frozen Accounts:
Labourhater, a normal poker player, was lawyered on Day 1
Ongbonga, a normal poker player, had account frozen on Night 1
Wufwugy, a Fed, got lawyered on Day 2
Jackvance, a normal poker player, had account frozen on Night 2
Roid_Rage, a normal poker player, was tweeted on Night 2
SDM, a normal poker player, was lawyered on Day 3

7 Players
Lee Jones
Defense Attorney
Tom Dwan
3 Feds

It's Night 3! Specials PM me by 8PM EST Friday May 6th.

[bigred]

Specials need to PM me by 8pm EST today. That's in one hour and twenty minutes. If I get your PM at 8:01PM you don't get to act on night 3.

[bigred]

A shadowy figure logs into his government account. As he scrolls through the files of evidence he has for suspected poker players, he comes across a certain player and smiles.

"Yes," he hisses. "This one has been asking to have his account frozen for years."

The fed loads up his freeze account app on his iphone (they have an app for that!) and type's in the player's name. He hits the freeze button. A processing bar comes up and right as its about to finish a message pops up:

Cease and desist. This player is protected by order of the Federal Court.

Love,
Defense Attorney

"Curse you, defense attorney!" the fed yells.

13 players with manies in their accounts:


a500lbgorilla
HoopyDude
Philly and the Phanatics
Flomo
Carroters
Boog690
GatorJH
DanAronG
DropTheBanana
BennyLaRue
TLR
Willburforce
Fulksy


Frozen Accounts:
Labourhater, a normal poker player, was lawyered on Day 1
Ongbonga, a normal poker player, had account frozen on Night 1
Wufwugy, a Fed, got lawyered on Day 2
Jackvance, a normal poker player, had account frozen on Night 2
Roid_Rage, a normal poker player, was tweeted on Night 2
SDM, a normal poker player, was lawyered on Day 3
Night 3 was very quiet.

7 Players
Lee Jones
Defense Attorney
Tom Dwan
3 Feds

It's Day 4! 7 votes required for lawyering. Majority holder lynched by Tuesday at noon EST

[philly and the phanatics]

gogogogo angel!

[BennyLaRue]

Wow, nice flipping, DTB. Who did you protect? I guess my soul reader is broken and will take a step back from being so vocal but next time, PLEASE put up more of a defense. Even as a reg villager, it's lame to just do nothing.

I bricked my lookup again, will share my confirmed villager list once it gets to 3.

[DropTheBanana]

LOL I saved myself. I won't explain my logic sense we seem to have some ballsy wolves.

[DropTheBanana]

I really want to take a closer look at Wilbur, Dan, and Hoopy since they caught my eye as suspicious after I was outed.

Gonna read through yesterday a bit closer and try to digest some things.

[philly and the phanatics]

benny, is it really worth risking you dying and us not finding out who any of your lookups were? Can you at least explain the logic behind not sharing who you looked up?

Also the move to go after the angel when it was going to be a flip like that is concurrent with what Gator did last game, they thought JV was the angel and went for him when it was a 50/50 like this.

[BennyLaRue]

benny, is it really worth risking you dying and us not finding out who any of your lookups were? Can you at least explain the logic behind not sharing who you looked up?

I already did. I confirm these guys and they'll be eaten quickly because it's too much of a logical advantage for the village to be able to believe that player completely, along with me and DTB. I think a list of 3 is a safe reveal pt because the wolves can't eat them all before the village has sufficient opportunities to lynch.

[philly and the phanatics]

yea but surely thats outweighed by the fact you are at least 50% likely to die tonight , that way we have 2-3 days of their honest opinions and we can go back and look at all the things they have said and their relationships with people etc...

[philly and the phanatics]

and we would have today for you/dtb/ and those 2 to come to some form of consensus for where the village should go

[BennyLaRue]

yea but surely thats outweighed by the fact you are at least 50% likely to die tonight , that way we have 2-3 days of their honest opinions and we can go back and look at all the things they have said and their relationships with people etc...

It's surely < 50%, probably far less. The wolves may not feel like flipping again.

I could be revealing as early as tomorrow and then with as many as 5 confirmed villagers, we're talking about half the village. That's huge and it's the advantage I'm gunning for.

[philly and the phanatics]

yea and if you reveal today we will have 4 confirmed...whereas if you dont make it to tomorrow we will be stuck with just DTB (not that DTB isnt a good player, just 1 is obviously <<<< having four today)....but yea i've said my piece, you obviously know what you are doing and i cant complain about the job you have done so far.

[BennyLaRue]

Meh, you want the village to cash in the tourney and I want the village to win.

Patience, my friend.

[fulksy]

yea my thinking on the reveals is the same as philly's, but you obvious have a plan hopefully it works out.

[fulksy]

this save doesn't completely exonerate DTB from being a wolf IMO. i think its just as likely the real angel was still protecting benny, but obv we have to stick with the assumption DTB is the angel. just something to keep in mind.

[GatorJH]

Agree with fulksy.

My top choices atm are hoopy and flomo. I find the timing of DTB's outing and flomo's rescind (after barely posting at all) very suspicious.

Still not sold on Fulksy but he is looking more villager than wolf lately

[BennyLaRue]

this save doesn't completely exonerate DTB from being a wolf IMO. i think its just as likely the real angel was still protecting benny, but obv we have to stick with the assumption DTB is the angel. just something to keep in mind.

Oh, right. This could be the case.

Wait a minute, that IS the case. I looked up DropTheBanana AND HE'S A GODDAMN FED SUMBITCH.

I could have let this go on for a while but I don't want there to be too much opportunity for information. I think this pretty much clears fulksy and Philly as villagers.

Lynch DropTheBanana

Can you say two soulreads on Day 1? I knew you could.

[BennyLaRue]

*opportunity for MISinformation, I mean

[philly and the phanatics]

lynch dtb good work benny...knew there was method to your madness.

[philly and the phanatics]

also it is possible that DTB has switched up his game since i was a wolf with him but id say with about 80% confidence that hoopy/wilbur/dan are clean.

[BennyLaRue]

The question is, did DTB believe me? If he did, which one of Wilbur, Dan and Hoopy is a wolf? Surely one of them. It's classic wolf to drop at least one name for later disassociation. These three need to be scrutinized.

[BennyLaRue]

Philly, I posted that before reading yours. Why do you say that? What was his style when he was a wolf with you?

[philly and the phanatics]

idk we basically tried hella hard to get everyone to go after one another but i dont think DTB pointed a finger at a fellow wolf once even after us stressing how important it was the whole time.

[philly and the phanatics]

by get everyone to go after one another i mean get each of us wolves to actively go after the other wolves so that if anything happened we would have cover for later.

[philly and the phanatics]

sigh idk its still worth looking at those 3 i guess....out of the 3 id say i have the strongest feeling that Dan is a villager. When he was a wolf last (dune game) he was a lot more quiet and reserved compared to this game, and i do not think he would have been pushing for SDM's death quite as hard if he knew SDM was a villager.

[BennyLaRue]

i do not think he would have been pushing for SDM's death quite as hard if he knew SDM was a villager.

lol, probably not

[DropTheBanana]

The question is, did DTB believe me?

I knew there was a 0% chance I don't get looked up after yesterday. I can't deny the village has a damn good seer. My list was constructed accordingly, and take that how you will.

My fake outing was orchestrated on Day 2 and was executed perfectly (including getting caught early Day 3). The same way you say "you want the village to win and not cash" has been our plan since the beginning. I guarantee the village will find one more wolf before the game is over but don't take pride in that fact. Anything you have thought about, about to think about, or any course of action you can take from here on out has already been thought about and discussed in the wolves den and taken into consideration.

Thanks to all who posted after my "outing" and a special thanks to the vig for your night 2 shot!

By the way, the last person to bold me is getting eaten by my fellow wolves.

Lynch BennyLaRue

[philly and the phanatics]

that was one of the gayer things ive ever read.

[BooG690]

Lynch DTB

Willbur's next.

[flomo]

Lynchthe banana man

Nice job Benny but could have held out a little longer on the reveal.

[TLR]

Oh, right. This could be the case.

Wait a minute, that IS the case. I looked up DropTheBanana AND HE'S A GODDAMN FED SUMBITCH.

I could have let this go on for a while but I don't want there to be too much opportunity for information. I think this pretty much clears fulksy and Philly as villagers.

Lynch DropTheBanana

Can you say two soulreads on Day 1? I knew you could.

Nice work Benny
BTW I dont think it clears fulksy, his post about DTB being a wolf just makes me more suspecious of him, eventually DTB fake outing would have been discovered, and then fulsky could have tried to use this post as a defense post.

lawyer DropTheBanana

[flomo]

Very ballsey crazy wolves to go after Benny.
What's going on?

[philly and the phanatics]

Nice work Benny
BTW I dont think it clears fulksy, his post about DTB being a wolf just makes me more suspecious of him, eventually DTB fake outing would have been discovered, and then fulsky could have tried to use this post as a defense post.

lawyer DropTheBanana

and this a further level....lynch fulksy then tlr :-p

[BooG690]

I knew there was a 0% chance I don't get looked up after yesterday. I can't deny the village has a damn good seer. My list was constructed accordingly, and take that how you will.

My fake outing was orchestrated on Day 2 and was executed perfectly (including getting caught early Day 3). The same way you say "you want the village to win and not cash" has been our plan since the beginning. I guarantee the village will find one more wolf before the game is over but don't take pride in that fact. Anything you have thought about, about to think about, or any course of action you can take from here on out has already been thought about and discussed in the wolves den and taken into consideration.

Thanks to all who posted after my "outing" and a special thanks to the vig for your night 2 shot!

By the way, the last person to bold me is getting eaten by my fellow wolves.

Lynch BennyLaRue

This post seems very Wufwugy-esque. This plus Wuf's post in the dead thread...

lol this is gonna be so awesome

...worries me that Wuf may still be taking part in their den. Can we get confirmation that this is not the case?

[DropTheBanana]

I can confirm

not that it means anythings :/

[DropTheBanana]

I can also confirm that a wolf has bolded me

[DropTheBanana]

I will also confirm that anything confirmed by a confirmed wolf should not be taken as confirmed

But seriously, Wuf hasn't been to the den

[BooG690]

HAHAHAHA

<3 DTB

Funny stuff.

[fulksy]

Lawyer DTB,

@TLR how does my last comment make me suspicious, if that was my only comment about DTB maybe, but i voted for DTB before he even fake outed himself, i think if you look back on my posts it'll look less like a level, i went after DTB pretty hard and tried to get the BW going once again after it died off, all before him claiming to be the angel.

[philly and the phanatics]

yea and me and TLR have done things like that before as wolves to provide ourselves with cover ldo so it does not vindicate you imo. That being said i have you in my villager camp for the time being.

[fulksy]

also A++ Benny

[rong]

Good work benny, I was hoping you'd do that, although I think you should have let it continue a bit longer but can see why you didn't.

Here's a thought, who did thr wolves attempt to kill? I can see two possible theories here.

1. They hoped you wouldn't look up banana, knew the angel would protect you, therefore sacrificed a kill in the hope of getting the village to believe banana is the angel.

2. They tried to kill someone else and accidentally hit the real angel who was protecting himself, which would mean they know who the angel is. They could have done this knowing it would neither confirm or prove against dtbs claims.

No time to break this down any further as at work and typing on my phone is painfully slow. but think it through and see where it takes you

[rong]

Good work benny, I was hoping you'd do that, although I think you should have let it continue a bit longer but can see why you didn't.

Here's a thought, who did thr wolves attempt to kill? I can see two possible theories here.

1. They hoped you wouldn't look up banana, knew the angel would protect you, therefore sacrificed a kill in the hope of getting the village to believe banana is the angel.

2. They tried to kill someone else and accidentally hit the real angel who was protecting himself, which would mean they know who the angel is. They could have done this knowing it would neither confirm or prove against dtbs claims.

No time to break this down any further as at work and typing on my phone is painfully slow. but think it through and see where it takes you

[Hoopy]

I need to reread the thread, nice work so far Benny.

lawyer DTB

[WillburForce]

nice work BarneyMagrue.

I was pretty sure DTB wasn't the Angel. So nice work Mr Angel as well.

Lawyer DTB

[a500lbgorilla]

ez game

Lawyer DTB

[a500lbgorilla]

This post seems very Wufwugy-esque. This plus Wuf's post in the dead thread...

...worries me that Wuf may still be taking part in their den. Can we get confirmation that this is not the case?

This is why players should ignore the dead thread. It's noise until otherwise noted. And if otherwise noted, my shitstorm will vengeful.

[a500lbgorilla]

I think we'd be well placed going for TLR or flomo today. We don't really need to lynch DTB. It's a slam dunk wolf, but it doesn't hurt anyone to just completely ignore every post he makes from here on out and still give ourselves the day. I think we shouldn't just rush headlong through the lynch before considering some pressure on some others.

[BennyLaRue]

Here's a thought, who did thr wolves attempt to kill? I can see two possible theories here.

1. They hoped you wouldn't look up banana, knew the angel would protect you, therefore sacrificed a kill in the hope of getting the village to believe banana is the angel.

2. They tried to kill someone else and accidentally hit the real angel who was protecting himself, which would mean they know who the angel is. They could have done this knowing it would neither confirm or prove against dtbs claims.

I agree and lean toward 1. DTB's posts today are all a smokescreen. For now, we need to go with the information and assume philly and fulksy are villagers.

And wolves, I c wat u r doin, I see what you're setting up. It won't work.

[BennyLaRue]

I think we'd be well placed going for TLR or flomo today. We don't really need to lynch DTB. It's a slam dunk wolf, but it doesn't hurt anyone to just completely ignore every post he makes from here on out and still give ourselves the day. I think we shouldn't just rush headlong through the lynch before considering some pressure on some others.

Too late. He has the right number. But that's fine. Get through the day, I get another lookup and we can start using logic instead of soulreads (which I am, unfortunately, out of).

[BennyLaRue]

But vig, do shoot flomo, pls.

[Hoopy]

Agree with fulksy.

My top choices atm are hoopy and flomo. I find the timing of DTB's outing and flomo's rescind (after barely posting at all) very suspicious.

Still not sold on Fulksy but he is looking more villager than wolf lately

Gator is all over the place and I'm starting to get suspicious of him as per usual. Flomo should be shot by the vig if we think he's a wolf since lynching him is kinda pointless (no info).

I really want to take a closer look at Wilbur, Dan, and Hoopy since they caught my eye as suspicious after I was outed.

I think the wolves are hoping we level ourselves here. Dan and Willbur look like villagers to me.

[rong]

Rilla, posts 509 & 511. Why say it bit not act on it.

[a500lbgorilla]

No reason to after Benny posted. And since the day was over before I posted.

[BennyLaRue]

Flomo should be shot by the vig if we think he's a wolf since lynching him is kinda pointless (no info).

Flomo should be shot by the vig even if some of us think he is a villager. He's not an asset and the certainty of knowing what he is far outweighs his contributions to the game so far. Shoot the spectre.

[GatorJH]

But vig, do shoot flomo, pls.

This absolutely. As I was reading through the time period when DTB claimed to be the angel I was pretty sure he would be a wolf as well based on post comments and timing.

Benny or Rilla, take a look and see if you notice anything.

[Carroters]

Okay a couple of thoughts before the end of the day.

1. Wtf at the wolves decision to nom Benny. I'd assume this is the way things went down since the chances of the wolves randomly hitting the angel and of the angel also protecting himself are pretty damn low. I'm tempted to assume that the wolves don't contain vets or good players because this just seems like a terrible move to me and I don't see a good player allowing it.

2. Fulsky's post about DTB at the start of today is really bothering me. Seems so overstressed and like a deliberate attempt to gain cover when DTB is caught. I think he's my top suspect right now. I can see wuf saying what he said about him on day 1 when they're both wolves sometimes and the way he's been acting just makes him seem so wolfy to me that even if Wuf only does that like 30% of the time when fulsky's a wolf, he's still a wolf pretty often here.

Noone else is looking overly wolfy to me at this point.

[bigred]

Final Player Votes:

Benny 1
DTB 9

[bigred]

Previously on DOJ Werewolf, the fed was cursing the defense attorney...

"God dammit," the fed screamed, "this can not get any worse right now..."

The fed also happened to be logged into Stars browsing for US players when a message pops up:

LOLOL KNOCK KNOCK

<3 Lee Jones


Right as the Fed reads the message, a strong, fit Asian by the name of Bikes kicks down the door and lawyers rush in drowning DTB, a fed, in a ton of lawsuits!

LITIGATED



12 players with manies in their accounts:


a500lbgorilla
HoopyDude
Philly and the Phanatics
Flomo
Carroters
Boog690
GatorJH
DanAronG
BennyLaRue
TLR
Willburforce
Fulksy


Frozen Accounts:
Labourhater, a normal poker player, was lawyered on Day 1
Ongbonga, a normal poker player, had account frozen on Night 1
Wufwugy, a Fed, got lawyered on Day 2
Jackvance, a normal poker player, had account frozen on Night 2
Roid_Rage, a normal poker player, was tweeted on Night 2
SDM, a normal poker player, was lawyered on Day 3
Night 3 was very quiet.
DropTheBanana, a Fed, got lawyered on Day 4

7 Players
Lee Jones
Defense Attorney
Tom Dwan
2 Feds

It's Night 4! Specials please PM me by Noon EST, Sunday May 8

[bigred]

"Check this out," Fulksy says reading out Tom Dwan's latest Tweet. "Flomo is a Fed! I knew it all along!"

Fulksy runs out of his apartment and sprints towards Flomo's house. He's joined by 500 other angry poker players. The door is kicked down and the group finds Flomo and his 4 friends drinking really nice wine and eating really nice food. They didn't, again, invite Bigred.

"Typical Feds," Fulksy screams, "eating nice food and wine with our hard earned, confiscated poker money! Get him!" The crowd rushes flomo and beats him. After searching all his stuff they figure out that Flomo was just a poker player.

"My bad," says Fulksy, "let me take you to the hospital."

Fulksy props Flomo over his shoulder and starts leading him out of Flomo's house towards the hospital.

A van pulls up besides them, the passenger (in a really nice suit) says, "Hey, is he alright? He needs help! Quick, get in the van. We'll take you to the hospital.

"Thanks, so much," Fulksy says and helps Flomo into the van. As they pull away Fulksy notices they're heading in the opposite direction of the hospital. "Guys," he says, "the hospital is the other way."

"I know," the passenger says smiling. "Criminal poker players like you only belong in one place...and that's jail."

Fulksy and Flomo were both regular poker players



10 players with manies in their accounts:


a500lbgorilla
HoopyDude
Philly and the Phanatics
Carroters
Boog690
GatorJH
DanAronG
BennyLaRue
TLR
Willburforce


Frozen Accounts:
Labourhater, a normal poker player, was lawyered on Day 1
Ongbonga, a normal poker player, had account frozen on Night 1
Wufwugy, a Fed, got lawyered on Day 2
Jackvance, a normal poker player, had account frozen on Night 2
Roid_Rage, a normal poker player, was tweeted on Night 2
SDM, a normal poker player, was lawyered on Day 3
Night 3 was very quiet.
DropTheBanana, a Fed, got lawyered on Day 4
Fulksy, a regular poker player, was lawyered on Night 4.
Flomo, a regular poker player, was tweeted on Night 4.

5 Players
Lee Jones
Defense Attorney
Tom Dwan
2 Feds

It's Day 4! 6 votes needed to lawyer. Majority leader lawyered at Noon EST Wednesday, May 11,

[philly and the phanatics]

interesting. I think the wolves went for fulksy for 2 reasons.

1. he def seemed like the real angel after being all "well idk if we can trust DTB still"....and

2. since they killed OngBonga first, they have made it clear that they are going to leave good players alive (rilla/gator/tlr), im sure they had planned on leaving JV alive but after he soul read wuf on day 2 they shit themselves.

i think if we are going to let rilla/gator/tlr survive we are going to need a lot more contribution from them

[a500lbgorilla]

Well, I have a thick list of villagers and only 3 people seem to omit themselves from it: TLR, Gator and Hoopy - in order of preference.

I don't necessarily think that they're keeping the good players alive for any reason other than the priority is angel hunting. I think that's the easiest explanation for striking Boog then fulksy.

So TLR and Gator aren't on my list by virtue of still being alive, but from the sense that everyone else has distinguished themselves as villagers in my eyes.