DOJ Werewolf

[philly and the phanatics]

also if hes a wolf i bet more than 1 wolf has voted for him.

[philly and the phanatics]

like seriously the wolves would never eat you ever even without you doing that shit lol only thing you did was make it more likely the village would lynch you.

-____-

[Roid_Rage]

Rescind SDM

Dad bailed, gotta work in the morning, shooting pool tomorrow afternoon.

Fuck you SDM, stop getting special roles so we can lynch you without a hitch ffs.

[BennyLaRue]

Lame shit, but could be a fake outing

Yeah, not convinced, not changing my vote. To play a special and draw attention to yourself like this is like, what, what?

[TLR]

I am having trouble believing SDM is the seer, I think it is more likely that he is a wolf, the question is can we afford the risk right now, the cost of having the seer dead is much higher then letting a wolf slide by at this time. However being led by a fake seer is not that great either

[rong]

I don't think his claim puts him solely in the special or wolf camp, he could still be a regular villager, dude has history remember. Sigh,rescind sdm

[rong]

I still think we lynch him actually, just so he knows that shit don't wash after the last time. But open to other opinions.

[OngBonga]

Ok this actually increases the chances that he's a wolf, it could be a wolf tactic to wagon him and then have him fake out, it's much more likely than them throwing him under the bus on day 1 for cover. Time will tell now, if he's not the seer then it's just a matter of waiting for the real seer to out himself when he feels the time is right, and prove it by giving us a wolf to lynch.

If he's the seer, well, this could be interesting. I hope he makes the right calls, it could be redemption time for SDM. It's not so bad having the seer known early if the angel is low profile and plays a good game, we've just got to hope the wolves don't bink their two-outer.

As for who to lynch now, I'd say there's going to be wolves in SDM's wagon regardless of his true role. I'm sticking with carrots.

[OngBonga]

Yeah, not convinced, not changing my vote. To play a special and draw attention to yourself like this is like, what, what?

Why would anyone, villager or wolf, still feel it's right to lynch SDM? Either Benny is a retarded villager or a level 0 wolf. Jeez. I could get behind a wagon for Benny now.

[rong]

Ong, in answer to your last question, see my last post.

[OngBonga]

Dan, we so fucking obviously cannot lnych someone who is saying "I'm the seer" on day 1. Ever. No matter who it is. It's beyond retarded.

Also, if SDM turns out to be a wolf, then I'd put money on 'rilla and Dan being wolves too, Dan especially, since it was his post that got the wagon moving towards an actual lynch, instead of leaving more time for the village to maybe come to their senses. If SDM is a wolf fake outing, then this is a wolf plan from the start.

This game got very interesting overnight.

[Hoopy]

I think we just have to go with it at this stage.

rescind SDM
lawyer Labourhater

[TLR]

Ok this actually increases the chances that he's a wolf, it could be a wolf tactic to wagon him and then have him fake out, it's much more likely than them throwing him under the bus on day 1 for cover. Time will tell now, if he's not the seer then it's just a matter of waiting for the real seer to out himself when he feels the time is right, and prove it by giving us a wolf to lynch.

If he's the seer, well, this could be interesting. I hope he makes the right calls, it could be redemption time for SDM. It's not so bad having the seer known early if the angel is low profile and plays a good game, we've just got to hope the wolves don't bink their two-outer.

As for who to lynch now, I'd say there's going to be wolves in SDM's wagon regardless of his true role. I'm sticking with carrots.

Having a fake seer leading the village is a disaster, as it will force the real seer to out himself too early, having the seer outed is bad, since the angel will need to defend him instead of defending himself, and if the wolves happen to eat the angel we lose both of them

I dont think we can afford to lynch SDM right now, but I dont believe him either. I think the way to go right now is to let SDM live but have the village dictate the seer lookups so we have some validation on his actions.

[WillburForce]

shit just got real.

I think its very unlikely SDM is the seer, likely a wolf, poss just pulling some shit as a villager.

Recind SDM.

Lawyer Labour

We haven't got long, so back to lynch the noob...

[rong]

.............. have the village dictate the seer lookups so we have some validation on his actions.

That's a dangerous way to go though, as we potentially have the wolves leading the seer if they are active in the village. Does add an intersting aspect to looking for reads though, as the whole village is then debating two things, who to lynch and who to see(r).

[Hoopy]

Having a fake seer leading the village is a disaster, as it will force the real seer to out himself too early, having the seer outed is bad, since the angel will need to defend him instead of defending himself, and if the wolves happen to eat the angel we lose both of them

I dont think we can afford to lynch SDM right now, but I dont believe him either. I think the way to go right now is to let SDM live but have the village dictate the seer lookups so we have some validation on his actions.

Problem is if he's a wolf he can just lie about the identity of who he looked up, though I think it's better than lynching him and finding out he actually was the seer.

Maybe give him a list of 4 people to look up so the wolves can't pick them off as easily as one person.

[Roid_Rage]

I don't like having the village to vote on who the seer looks up...

[a500lbgorilla]

rescind SDM

List or no doesn't matter. SDM'll do his own thing anyway.

[a500lbgorilla]

I am having trouble believing SDM is the seer, I think it is more likely that he is a wolf, the question is can we afford the risk right now, the cost of having the seer dead is much higher then letting a wolf slide by at this time. However being led by a fake seer is not that great either

Just give it time. Keeping him around for a few days won't hurt.

[BennyLaRue]

Why would anyone, villager or wolf, still feel it's right to lynch SDM? Either Benny is a retarded villager or a level 0 wolf. Jeez. I could get behind a wagon for Benny now.

I'm not exactly the only one thinking this is a tactic.

And I think me taking this stance should show I'm not a wolf because it would be the most blatant and ultimately damning move. Retarded villager, maybe.

[BennyLaRue]

At least, maybe on the retarded part.

[rong]

This is the one problem with werewolf, as a villager in particular, sometimes self interest has little to do with what's in the best interests of your team. This is why I think SDM should still be lnched. If he is claiming to be the seer when in fact he is a reg villager, he is just completely fucking over his team, and as he has already done it once, I suggest we lynch him on principle, and if he is either a wolf or the seer, then that's fine, but if he is a reg villlager, then bring out the banhammer!

[OngBonga]

If SDM is the seer, then he should look up who he wants, and he shouldn't tell us who he's looked up until the angel is dead. Let's hope he either gets lucky or plays well. I don't see why he needs to say a lot if he is indeed the real seer, perhaps the lolcats should come back out. Fuck, did I really just say that?

If SDM is telling us who he's "looked up", the village should be very cautious about following his lead.

If he's not the seer, let's just hope the wolves don't bink the angel too early. The real seer can do his thing and announce himself when the time is right.

If SDM is a regular villager, he should very quickly admit he's being an idiot and putting the real specials at risk by saving his own sorry arse. He should be honest now and accept his fate.

[OngBonga]

I'm not exactly the only one thinking this is a tactic.

And I think me taking this stance should show I'm not a wolf because it would be the most blatant and ultimately damning move. Retarded villager, maybe.

I think it's a tactic, I hope it's a tactic because it's a bad one. And I also don't think you're a wolf, I think that would be even more retarded than a villager suggesting it. But then both are retarded, if you're a wolf it could at least be a level.

I doubt LabourHater is a wolf, again we're going for the easy target that will please the wolves. Can we not give ourselves at least a small % of hitting a wolf by lynching someone on the SDM wagon? I'll change my vote to anyone who bolded SDM if a wagon develops, that's where our best chance of hitting a wolf is.

[LabourHater]

Right, I have an amazingly bad hangover today so i doubt i'll be posting much as i can barely stop myself from pulling my own head off. I'm not so sure about SDM being the seer but Ong is right we can't lynch him now. As for now turning the tables on me i can't stress enough how much of a waste that would be, Simply lynching somebody because they are new is a retarded idea, i see no basis for this but if people really want to waste a lynch then fill your boots. I'm happy to change my vote now for anyone who's on my wagon.

Rescind TLR

[Carroters]

Think it's highly likely SDM is just a regular villager. Think as either the seer or as a wolf he'd have stopped lol catting as soon as his wagon started to form. Really pisses me off that he'd decide to just fuck over his team as a villager in this way.

Hopefully I'm wrong and he's a wolf, but I think that's only likely if this was planned and they've decided to sacrifice him in an early game fake seer ploy to fuck over the village, not totally unreasonable but less likely than him just being a douche.

Right now I'm getting the feeling Benny and Ong are both villagers. Ong is chopping and changing all over the place but not in a structured wolfy way. Almost defo a villager imo. As for the rest there's little to do a proper analysis on. Still think Wuf seems pretty off his usual villager game and a few of his posts have seemed out of character.

Also rescined fulksy. Zero percent chance he's a wolf IMO. I would fully expect him to have posted at least once more if he was

This bugs me in particular and I don't see how someone logical would come to such a conclusion as a villager since it was one single vote and not even that much time elapsed. This post just feels like a wolf trying to assert the villagerness of someone in order to blend in as a villager, but doing it prematurely with the pre knowledge of fulsky's role.

I'm by no means certain on this, but it's the best wolf lead I have to go on for now so thought I'd share.

Labour hater is being very nonchalant and I can't shake the possibility of him being coached right now. Fine leaving my vote there for now since the day's about to end and he's not likely to be much use if a villager by the looks of things. Happy to get some heat on Wuf soon for sure.

[bigred]

Total Votes:

Labour 6
SDM 2
carrots 1
Roid 1

Labour to get lawyered in 4 hours unless some major change in plot occurs...

[WillburForce]

A list of who we think should be looked up isn't great...the wolves would get a say and obv steer away from themselves.

Thinking about it, we just have to go with SDM as the seer for now, lynch the noob then see where we're at.

[BennyLaRue]

19 players, only 10 votes after 3 days? Super-lame.

[Roid_Rage]

Lynch BooG

Obvious reasons.

[rong]

I can lynch boog for his sdm is never a wolf comment. lawyer boog

[OngBonga]

This is more promising than LabourHater.

rescind carrots

lawyer boog

Promise nothing personal, I think this gives us much more info than lnyching the noob.

[a500lbgorilla]

A quick explanation of the Boog lynch would be good. From my eyes, it looks like we're killing someone more useful because we think the less useful person is not a wolf.

If he's like 3 points more likely to be a wolf than Labour, it's not a good idea to shift.

[DropTheBanana]

This game got exciting quick!

Rescind SDM
Lynch LabourHater

[OngBonga]

I think boog is more likely a wolf than labour, and if he's a villager, then I'm mega suspicious of dan.

[DropTheBanana]

This is more promising than LabourHater.

rescind carrots

lawyer boog

Promise nothing personal, I think this gives us much more info than lnyching the noob.

This was posted while I was posting the above post and I actually agree if we think the BooG wagon can make it in time.

Rescind Labour
Lawyer BooG

[a500lbgorilla]

Yeah, I'm not lynching Boog.

[a500lbgorilla]

I think boog is more likely a wolf than labour, and if he's a villager, then I'm mega suspicious of dan.

It's like threading a needle these likelyhoods. Boog is better for the village than Labour if both are villagers.

That labour might not be one makes Boog only microscopically more likely to be one. It's a bad decision to lynch him over the newbie imo.

[a500lbgorilla]

Lawyer LabourHater

[DropTheBanana]

From my eyes, it looks like we're killing someone more useful because we think the less useful person is not a wolf.

This is exactly why Gator ran off with the W last game. Just because they are useful does not make them villagers nor does it guarantee that they will provide useful and accurate information.

I can't really provide a valid argument for exactly who ties in with BooG as of now, but a late day wagon that just blasts off will be very telling when the day ends.

I think the good/bad player argument is kind of ridiculous when it clouds our stream of information. Not that we'll get a lot at this point in time but I think it's a better jumping off point.

[a500lbgorilla]

This is exactly why Gator ran off with the W last game. Just because they are useful does not make them villagers nor does it guarantee that they will provide useful and accurate information.

Yeah, but everyone is like 85% villager today. You might sniff the scent of a wolf, but the wolves are probably just being quiet right now. Watching us pick between two bad choices.

How does a wolf's bandwagon explode in the final hours of day 1? The wolves would be the most well equipped to disarm such a thing.

[BooG690]

Wow. My bandwagon took off that quickly, huh? Dranger and Dan within 17 minutes of each other trying to steer away from a Labour lynch? I didn't find Labour suspicious before but now I kinda do.

As for SDM never being a wolf, I've already explained my logic about that. What kind of wolf team allows SDM to continue posting pictures when it seemed almost certain he were getting lynched for doing so?

I go after Dranger posting a logical explanation of why he is probably a wolf. He comes back at me with "obvious reasons" which Dan apparently understands a blindly follows. There are wolves at play in my bandwagon that took off suspiciously quickly.

[OngBonga]

I go after Dranger posting a logical explanation of why he is probably a wolf.

Soulreads on day 1? Sorry couldn't resist.

I agree with you there's at least one wolf on your wagon. Sure that puts me in that category, but we're getting some info now. You could be a wolf, no more so than most others, but I just can't see labour being a wolf at this stage, based on the logic that day 1 wagons are rarely wolves. This seems like a pretty strange wagon to me, a lot stranger than a "mwaha lynch the noob" wagon, which for me could mean a lucky break for the village. If you're a wolf, then it's highly unlikely that the votes for you are wolves, and if you're a villager, then we can have a good look at roid, dan, dtb and of course myself.

[DropTheBanana]

@ 'Rilla I didn't say I think BooG is necessarily a wolf. That's why I can't really give a concrete argument against him.

@ The rest of the village Honestly, it's the situation that I'm voting for and not BooG in particular. Even if Gator (or anyone else for instance) had of been bolded this late in the day a couple times I would make the same argument.

While we're still hunting for wolf #1 the way people enter and leave bandwagons is probably our best source of information and this situation is perfect for providing an opportunity for us to start dissecting things like that.

I hate it for BooG that he might get caught in the crossfire on this, but his wagon + results + tonites actions is going to be very helpful in starting to piece things together.

[Roid_Rage]

Please BooG, reiterate your 'logical explanations' for lynching me? Because I have (and have had) reasonable explanations for not posting RIGHT AWAY on Day 1 in this game and in the past? Yes, I was a wolf in the previous two games it happened, but that isn't why I didn't post a shit ton on the first day. I actually WAS watching a football game and getting drunk in that one game (was watching Tampa Bay get owned by the Lions BOOM.) and this game I had to work and was watching the draft. Not that hard to comprehend?

As for your wagon taking off this fast, not my fault you tried to get a wagon going on me and I retaliated by jokingly bolding you (thats my 'obvious reasons' you tard. (OMG DID I JUST OFFEND SOMEONE))However, the fact that it did take off fast DOES give the village information and I for one would be happy to see it polished off now that it's going somewhere, would give the seer (be it SDM or not) some targets to choose from to look up (obviously those on the bandwagon) and your death itself gives us information.

Chances are, you're getting defensive for no reason, since it seems like the day is going to be over within the hour and there's not much chance of you overtaking LabourHater.

<3 you, my Mexican-Terrorist

[Roid_Rage]

I mean, your post attacking me would make sense, if I wasn't a thinking person and new to WW. But I don't think I'm going to go for the Triple Crown of Retard and try to pull the same stunt 3x in a row by linking myself being a wolf, not posting, and including beer and football as an excuse. I guess I could as some sort of 'elaborate level' but I feel like you should give me more credit than that.

[wufwugy]

LOL at Labour taking the number one spot then magically a bunch of wolves quickly fabricate a boog wagon

lawyer labour up

[Carroters]

I hate the speed the BooG wagon just grew at there and don't see any great reason for it.

If Labour's a wolf, this is looking pretty awesome already and those 4 snap wagoners will need to be scrutinised pretty hard. Well 3 of them will, I still think ong's a villager.

[Carroters]

LOL at Labour taking the number one spot then magically a bunch of wolves quickly fabricate a boog wagon

lawyer labour up

If labour's a wolf I'll be even more suspicious of Wuf.

[philly and the phanatics]

lol i think its moer likely that wolves are voting for fellow wolves than not....everyone said that wouldnt be the case last game after we were doing it, yet thats exactly what happened again last game.

[philly and the phanatics]

let me see if i can rephrase that last bit better, last game everyone said that the wolves would not go after eachother because thats exactly what me/tlr/dc/roid did the game before, yet last game gator strung up virtually every wolf lol.

[philly and the phanatics]

i guess its only day 1....idk...fuck voting today imo

[wufwugy]

wtf gator didn't string up the wolves last game. I seer'd two then put the other two as my next favorite lynches

[Roid_Rage]

Wuf's ego taking the back seat as always.

Keep at this rate and you'll be Keith's match in no time!

[wufwugy]

Motherfucker Keith aint got shit on me

[bigred]

Total Votes:


Labour 8
SDM 1
Roid 1
boog 4

Guy who can't spell labor dies in 15 minutes unless there's a sudden change of heart

[bigred]

Labourhater was playing 50nl but has now moved all the way up to 1000NL with the minimum buyin. Make enough for the minimum buyin at the next level is the goal of the Labourhater challenge.

"I think I'm ready to move to 2000NL," he typed into IRC. "I'm awesome!"

"This guy can't be legit," Bikes said. "He's got help on his side. Must be a government super user! Let's lawyer him!"

"I like motorcycles and blue helmets!" yells Boost.

"Um...ok. We're going to go ahead and lawyer labourhator then..." said Bikes.

"And cooking, I also like cooking!"

"Fucking hate IRC," bikes muttered. He picked up the phone and called his lawyers. After a day of super fast litigation, labourhater, is discovered to be a normal poker player.

18 players with manies in their accounts:

Jackvance
OngBonga
StillDeadMoney
a500lbgorilla
HoopyDude
Philly and the Phanatics
Flomo
Carroters
Roid_Rage
Boog690
GatorJH
DanAronG
DropTheBanana
Wufwugy
BennyLaRue
TLR
Willburforce
Fulksy


Frozen Accounts:
Labourhater, a normal poker player, was lawyered on Day 1

11 Players
Lee Jones
Defense Attorney
Tom Dwan
4 Feds

It's night 1! Specials PM me by Monday May 2nd @ 3PM EST

[bigred]

Ongbonga walked into his office with its painted white walls. He sat at his white desk in his white chair and turned on his white iMac. He clicked on the PokerStars application with his white mouse with a white winter background and loaded up some tables with his custom white theme.

"Time to show these noobs how to grind play money!" he exclaimed. "Hmmm, board is paired and there's 4 to the flush...I think this noob is bluffing. I will call with my bottom pair!" The noob was not bluffing. "That son of a bitch, stupid fish. Wait a minute...he has a rapper icon...he must be non-white. Time to hate!" Ongbonga proceeded to say a lot of expletives and racial slurs that can't be repeated.

Suddenly a message popped up stating that Ongbonga was illegally playing online poker and his accounts would be frozen.

"Was it because I was being racist?" he cried, "I'll stop! I swear! I can change! I'm friends with Boost, that has to count for something!"

"Nope, we got the Asian yesterday. Now we need to diversify so the hippy dems don't complain." replied the Feds. "Be racist all you want, we just want your manies."

Ongbonga, a normal poker player (and a questionable character), had his account frozen and manies taken.

(Note, it's assumed all players have moved to the US for a sexy party fun time for the duration of this game )

17 players with manies in their accounts:

Jackvance
StillDeadMoney
a500lbgorilla
HoopyDude
Philly and the Phanatics
Flomo
Carroters
Roid_Rage
Boog690
GatorJH
DanAronG
DropTheBanana
Wufwugy
BennyLaRue
TLR
Willburforce
Fulksy


Frozen Accounts:
Labourhater, a normal poker player, was lawyered on Day 1
Ongbonga, a normal poker player, had account frozen on Night 1

10 Players
Lee Jones
Defense Attorney
Tom Dwan
4 Feds

It's Day 2! 9 votes needed to lawyer. Majority holder lawyered @ 7PM on Wednesday, 5/4.

[rong]

hmmm, boog? Or too obvious? Or maybe anyone who couldn't be assed to read his pointless drivel.

[rong]

Also, as for Wuf's posts, not a single one seems like Wuf the villager to me. He and boog are my top suspects. As for Boog, none of your posts seem logical or well thought out and some are in fact detrimental to the village. Including the ones late yesterday(werewolf day) which I didn't have the chance to respond to. You are my favoured lynch based on posts and events so far. But lets see what the day brings.

[BennyLaRue]

I don't hate a BooG lynch but it's thin. The interesting thing about it is that it took off so quickly yesterday. There could very well be something there, either that wolves were pushing for it to be rid of a villager or in order to establish villager cred once BooG turns out to be a wolf in late game.

[BennyLaRue]

To expand on that, the BooG train was Roid-Range, Dan, OngBonga and DropTheBanana.

OngBonga, we know about. I'm feeling villageryness from Dan. Roid_Rage and DTB are suspect for now.

[Hoopy]

hmmm, boog? Or too obvious? Or maybe anyone who couldn't be assed to read his pointless drivel.

He went after a lot of people and stirred stuff up so maybe the wolves thought they wouldn't be able to get a bandwagon going on him in late game, or maybe they thought he was the angel.

Weird though considering there's better players to go after.

People I'd like to lynch today are Gator/JV/wuf.

Also flomo and fulksy need to post MOAR.

[WillburForce]

The late derail of an bw, then shown to be a villager is classic wolf behavior.

Lets see what SDM (the poss seer) has to say.

[BennyLaRue]

I never feel comfortable with Gator since he's clearly good and doesn't deviate his gameplay and others have echoed the concerns about Wuf so whether or not I agree, the issue has been floated. But why JV, Hoopy?

[Hoopy]

I never feel comfortable with Gator since he's clearly good and doesn't deviate his gameplay and others have echoed the concerns about Wuf so whether or not I agree, the issue has been floated. But why JV, Hoopy?

He's been kind of quiet so far which he's done as a wolf before. Other than that not much tbh.

[StillDeadMoney]

Sorry guys, but I'm not the seer. I was hoping that the wolves try to eat me thinking that my claim to be the seer was not credible and thus would not be protected by the angel. It didn't work. If I have any major suspicions (and not just hunches) as to who the wolves are, I will of course let everyone know. But for now I'm going to take a more reactive approach to the game instead of forcing the action as I have done in the past.

Angel, go back to protecting yourself until the seer comes out.

[BennyLaRue]

Sorry guys, but I'm not the seer. I was hoping that the wolves try to eat me thinking that my claim to be the seer was not credible and thus would not be protected by the angel. It didn't work. If I have any major suspicions (and not just hunches) as to who the wolves are, I will of course let everyone know. But for now I'm going to take a more reactive approach to the game instead of forcing the action as I have done in the past.

Angel, go back to protecting yourself until the seer comes out.

Why is this not in lolcat form?

[WillburForce]

.....

[jackvance]

New trend, villagers fake outing so they don't get lynched?..

Anyway, wuf is kinda off

lynch wuf

[WillburForce]

i think SDM and Benny are both wolves.

[GatorJH]

I have no freakin' idea at this point so I am going to sit back and hopefully have some time tonight to review the thread.

I also realize that, after winning the last game, I will get lynched within the next day or two and that sucks because I can be valuable at end game. Hopefully if I am alive long enough the wolves will just eat me, or the seer will out me as a villager.

As for Wuf I have been waiting to see how he would act the first time as a wolf so I will definitely see if I notice anything out of the ordinary when I review the thread.

[GatorJH]

i think SDM and Benny are both wolves.

I think Willbur and JV are both wolves.


Ok, not really but there is as much analysis in my statement as there is in yours. It drives me crazy when people just throw out comments like that without at least trying to explain why they are on that thought process.

[WillburForce]

hahah. You're right of course Gator.

I think SDM is a wolf because he pulled the seer shit, then got away with being lynched. He now tries to turn it round (ie get the real seer of his back) by saying he's not infact the seer.

Benny then brings a funny to make it all look ok...

Hence SDM and Benny are wolves...

tenious but I like it.

Lynch Benny

[philly and the phanatics]

idk why they would kill ong, wasnt he catching some heat? the only reason i think they would do it is if he was really close.