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  1. #1

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    PokerStars Game #59192884789: Hold'em No Limit ($0.02/$0.05 USD) - 2011/03/14 18:50:55 CET [2011/03/14 13:50:55 ET]
    Table 'Mineura VI' 6-max Seat #2 is the button
    Seat 1: regevbigslik ($1.25 in chips)
    Seat 2: ghog15 ($5.19 in chips)
    Seat 3: jeroeney ($5.31 in chips)
    Seat 4: opexcz ($5.74 in chips)
    Seat 5: Nashota ($4.33 in chips)
    Seat 6: GONNNYchIp ($3.41 in chips)
    jeroeney: posts small blind $0.02
    opexcz: posts big blind $0.05
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to opexcz [4c 7c]
    Nashota has timed out
    Nashota: folds
    GONNNYchIp: folds
    regevbigslik: folds
    ghog15: raises $0.10 to $0.15
    jeroeney: folds
    opexcz: raises $0.30 to $0.45
    ghog15: calls $0.30
    *** FLOP *** [Qc 8h 7s]
    opexcz: bets $0.50
    ghog15: calls $0.50
    *** TURN *** [Qc 8h 7s] [5c]
    opexcz: bets $0.75
    ghog15: calls $0.75
    *** RIVER *** [Qc 8h 7s 5c] [8c]
    opexcz: bets $2.40
    ghog15: folds
    Uncalled bet ($2.40) returned to opexcz
    opexcz collected $3.26 from pot
    opexcz: doesn't show hand
    *** SUMMARY ***
    Total pot $3.42 | Rake $0.16
    Board [Qc 8h 7s 5c 8c]
    Seat 1: regevbigslik folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 2: ghog15 (button) folded on the River
    Seat 3: jeroeney (small blind) folded before Flop
    Seat 4: opexcz (big blind) collected ($3.26)
    Seat 5: Nashota folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 6: GONNNYchIp folded before Flop (didn't bet)




    In this hand I opted to 3bet, because he was fairly active.
    When he calls, I think his range is something like: JJ-88,7d7h,7d7s,7h7s,66-22,ATs+,KJs+,QJs,JTs,AJo+,KQo

    Cbet here folds out a lot of hands, he could continue with like: JJ-88,7d7h,7d7s,7h7s,AQs+,KQs,QJs,JTs,AQo,KQo

    i'm not sure about turn, if i check here, he will check his pairs, str8 draws, bet Queens, sets...but he is calling my river with all this weaks hands, also dotn want to give him free card to his draws. I'm also betting my equtiy, since I turned a fd.

    When he calls I'm almost sure he doesn't have sets and big queens
    So I bet to get him call with KQ, QJ, AQ...he will fold rest of his hands....


    What's your opinion about this hand on every street?
    I'm also aware I bet too small
  2. #2
    PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.05 BB (6 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

    CO ($1.25)
    Button ($5.19)
    SB ($5.31)
    Hero (BB) ($5.74)
    UTG ($4.33)
    MP ($3.41)

    Preflop: Hero is BB with 4, 7
    3 folds, Button bets $0.15, 1 fold, Hero raises to $0.45, Button calls $0.30

    Flop: ($0.92) Q, 8, 7 (2 players)
    Hero bets $0.50, Button calls $0.50

    Turn: ($1.92) 5 (2 players)
    Hero bets $0.75, Button calls $0.75

    River: ($3.42) 8 (2 players)
    Hero bets $2.40, 1 fold

    Total pot: $3.42 | Rake: $0.16
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    this hand is solid on every street.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bikes View Post
    this hand is solid on every street.
    I agree except for preflop unless OP really knows what he's doing. The guy is calling with a wide range.
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    Turn. Is the turn a little too weak? I want to bet more on the turn, at least 60% bc we are showing so much strength pf. It looks weak considering we are repping alot of pp/AQ/KQs.
    River. The club is a huge scare card for villain. We want villain to call with his pair of queens, not fold. Wouldn't a smaller value bet be more appropriate? He only calls here with a higer flush (I'm discounting boats bc i think he would have raised the turn).
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    Openside - when you say you want to bet more on the turn do you mean so he'll fold more or what? I like every street but pre because he's calling the turn a decent amount and folding the river a ton of the time. I see your argument about the river sizing though.
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    I don't like pre, if you are going to 3b-bluff him pick Kx or Ax hands (top of your folding range) or SC's.

    Would maybe cbet the flop a tad more, like $0.60
    Would definitely bet more on the turn for better fold equity (that's if we have fold equity at all against this villain and if we don't we shouldn't be at this point).
    River it's a bit difficult to bet less, like 1/2 pot because that would leave a silly-small amount behind. However if he is aggro-tard, I wouldn't hate a check or a tiny bet to induce.
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    He just wins, mmkay?
    Considering what you think his calling range is IP, don't you think widening your value range to something like, AJs+, AQo+, TT+, KQs would be a lot better than trying to 3bet bluff him? Why polarize your 3betting range (especially OOP) when he's only going to be flatting with hands that crush the bottom of your range (which you're likely going to have way more often).

    Just a thought.
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    ^^^ +1
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  10. #10
    If villain has a hand that beats a pair of 7's did he play it perfectly?
  11. #11
    Quote Originally Posted by mbiz View Post
    If villain has a hand that beats a pair of 7's did he play it perfectly?
    Probably not. Given the tiny bet size on the turn I probably raise AQ a decent amount of the time here as ranges now include club draws and thus there is value in getting more money in the middle.
    [00:29] <daven> dc, why not check turn behind
    [00:30] <DC> daven
    [00:30] <DC> on my hand?
    [00:30] <daven> yep
    [00:30] <DC> because I am drunk
    [00:30] <daven> nice reason
    [00:30] <daven> no further questions
    [00:30] <yaawn> ^^Lol

    Problem officer...?

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