10 year old with 4 guns....

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if you don't know better than to not murder someone by the time you are 10 years old, you're a hopeless waste of life. lock him up and throw away the key.

even if it wasn't guns, most of us were exposed to lethal weapons growing up (e.g. kitchen knives) and yet we didn't kill our parents over an argument.

Dude, what?

Kids his age are incredibly irrational. There are many, many explanations as to why he could very easily not have understood what he was doing. In fact, we know he didn't understand the implications. Zero ten year olds on the planet understand implications of these kinds of actions in the ways that adults do, and when they conform it's largely due to how they're being raised and such

The kid could so easily have just thought that the "gun solves problems" in the same way that pushing his sister when he's mad "solves problems"

Besides, you can guarantee that any kid who is capable of getting his hands on a loaded gun has terrrrrrrrrrible parents. Torturing the kid for the rest of his life is not even close to a solution

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Besides, you can guarantee that any kid who is capable of getting his hands on a loaded gun has terrrrrrrrrrible parents. Torturing the kid for the rest of his life is not even close to a solution

I'm not in favor of giving this fucked up kid life in prison, but if I understood the article correctly he will be free at 21 if he has no (violent?) problems in juvi. Doubt the kid will be a well functioning member of society at 21 no matter how he gets sentenced/ treated tho. Makes me think of Garden State, then I remember that this kid kinda had to intend to kill. Can 10 yr olds even have intent??

[wufwugy]

I'm not in favor of giving this fucked up kid life in prison, but if I understood the article correctly he will be free at 21 if he has no (violent?) problems in juvi. Doubt the kid will be a well functioning member of society at 21 no matter how he gets sentenced/ treated tho. Makes me think of Garden State, then I remember that this kid kinda had to intend to kill. Can 10 yr olds even have intent??

He didn't have intent to kill, not in any way that adults do. The kid is freaking ten years old.

Adults are fucking retards. We don't let ten year olds see boobies or hear swearing because their minds are too immature to "handle it", yet we then act like they are fully capable of handling themselves in this kind of situation

He needs to be raised well. That is it. There is zero evidence that kids can be sociopaths, yet enormous evidence that treating kids like criminals and sociopaths is a self-fulfilling prophecy. Even something as "merciful" as juvi until he's 21 is awful. He needs good fucking guidance, not his entire life to be defined by something he did when he was ten fucking years old. Long term punishment for any aged adult is even awful, but for a child it's...I have no words to describe how bad it is

The entire system is shit. Adults are too fucked in the brain to realize that these kinds of things are a product of the system they've created failing, and isn't solved by screwing up children's lives


And the crazy fucking thing is that criminals aren't somehow fucked up people, they're people who have been fucked up. There isn't some identifiable genetic characteristic that makes people criminals. We need to stop punishing people for being the ones who get screwed by the shit system we've designed, and start fixing that system in the first place

Like with child molesters. In the US we say lock them up for life, but in countries that don't hate themselves, they've been discovering that the molesters are being reformed as they simply change the system the molesters live in. People aren't bad, systems are bad.

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There isn't some identifiable genetic characteristic that makes people criminals.

So the sloped forehead/protuding lower jaw is wrong?

Dam! I've unfairly judged several people.