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    right i cant stop thinking about this. if you all still think this is retarded after i've said this then i will be forced to believe you.
    pre flop UTG raise is a min raise...when UTG+1 calls i don't put him on KK or QQ he's allowing this pot to get played multi way. (this might be me being a dumbass giving this guy respect, as people do often fail to isolate but thats my take)
    flop...it gets checked to me. why? if he has a K who is checking this flop. i take a stab believing the every body wants to fold or if they have a draw like JT or low diamonds they really want the free card.
    turn... what do you think can call this shove? a queen is gonna have a real hard time calling with that K on board pairs lower than that, an even harder time if he has them in his range which i don't think he really does that often. 1 combo of 55 that he's slowplaying crushes me but hard for me to put him on it. Then we've got the draws making the 2 the best card ever, his ev goes well down when such a blank hits with even the best draw JdTd i'm in front. i don't think his draw is that strong by the way because of his lack of any balls, but its possible.
    what can he call me with that has me beat? 55 and like QX diamonds. whats thats 11 combos if his range include Qx x=Ato2. none of which i really put him. cos he checked the flop. Is this amount of hands that he might have, but i don't put him, on reason for me not to charge him to see the river.
    I don't have any reads on the guy, this is a good reason not to get involved but look at his weak ass play even at 2nl this is weak. I find it really hard to put him on anything good. If he flipped over something huge like KK i would laugh at how much i misread the situation but he flipped JTo, i had it right. Do you guys not make these kinds of reads to see that your winning a hand with something marginal/weak, or does his massive lack of any balls not really tell me anything, should i still be putting aces, kings, queens KQ AdQd in his range.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kickass View Post
    if he has a K who is checking this flop.
    A huge mistake at the micro's is to judge a villains actions based upon what you would do. Down load poker stove, put him on a range and run some numbers.
    There have been a lot of posts recently, which open with "just sat down, no reads" and villain is taking a line the OP doesn't understand. I'm really interested to hear how others approach this. I play ABC poker against them, hit or fold. Believe them until they give you a reason not to, no FPS bs. Your br will thank you.
    GL mate.
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    A huge mistake at the micro's is to judge a villains actions based upon what you would do.

    sounds like me.
    I'm trying to use position and stop being so weak tight. using your position and being aggressive isn't something that comes naturally, lets hope i learn it sometime soon.

    thanks everyone, i will definitely post more and i'll use the hand converter next time too.
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    calling pre is fine
    remember that the biggest leak displayed at micro (all?) stakes is calling too much
    Last edited by daven; 12-31-2010 at 02:48 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by daven View Post
    calling pre is fine
    remember that the biggest leak displayed at micro (all?) stakes is calling too much
    ^^
    this above all else. You're not getting them to fold Qx, JJ, maybe not even A6. At least not consistently.
    Then on QKx any two broadways have at least a gutshot and an ace, there's a flushdraw out there. This is a terrible spot to bluff regardless of ranges* or stakes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Openside View Post
    There have been a lot of posts recently, which open with "just sat down, no reads" and villain is taking a line the OP doesn't understand. I'm really interested to hear how others approach this. I play ABC poker against them, hit or fold. Believe them until they give you a reason not to, no FPS bs. Your br will thank you.
    GL mate.
    assume they are like the average unknown at your stakes
    at 2nl this means they are way too loose pre, too passive, call too much, and overvalue their hands.

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