Man... it seems every thread that is even remotely political on this forum inevitably turns in to be a wufwugy indoctrination thread. There's a lot I disagree with in his last few posts. I don't see any value in discussing this evolutionary psychology bs; I actually see very little reason to give credence to the "science" as a whole. Anyhow, that's another point entirely.

Wufwugy isn't, for once, echoing the opinions of a broad range of intellectual authorities when he talks about how "agriculture fucked humanity" or how "we weren't biologically meant for modern life" etc. I really am beginning to think that he just approaches this topic - and from what I've read over the past few years, many, many others - with the preset foregone conclusion that the world is going to shit, humanity is evil, and we should pay for even having the audacity to progress beyond our meager beginnings.

Who knows. Maybe I'm wrong about that; maybe he has approached each topic in a partial, balanced manner with no predispositions, and through unbiased analysis and discourse, reached similar conclusions every time. Maybe.

But I'll tell you what. It seems a hell of a fucking lot like cherry-picking to me.

I was going to launch into a tirade about agriculture and how shitty life was before its development etc but it seems I'd be wasting my time. No matter how convincing my argument is, it won't do anything to sway the opinion of someone who laments the fact that human civilizations ever even came to be; pining for the days when our species lived short, unenlightened and ultimately unfulfilling lives...

I dont know. Don't take this as a hate-on, wuf. I actually do have a lot of respect for you. I just wish you weren't so contrarian. It's like you're so cynical, you're not even a cynic anymore; you're something else. It's distressing, mainly because you write eloquently and your arguments are usually very convincing.

At any rate. I don't agree with you, not on this, not on what you believe to be the inevitable course of humanity. I don't agree with your moral evaluation of human progress. I also don't agree with the implications of any of these things. Call it a cop-out, but I just don't want to argue about it; it seems to me to be an exercise in futility. I'm not a big fan of Sisyphus.