100nl - Turn nuts 4bet pot simple decision 165bb deep

[JL]

Villain is completely unknown.

Shove, bet small, or check?

$0.50/$1 No Limit Holdem
5 Players
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Stacks:
UTG ($123.10)
Hero ($204.25)
BTN ($164.50)
SB ($99)
BB ($240.80)

Pre-Flop: ($1.50, 5 players) Hero is CO
1 fold, Hero raises to $3, BTN raises to $10.50, 2 folds, Hero raises to $28, BTN calls $17.50

Flop: ($57.50, 2 players)
Hero bets $29, BTN calls $29

Turn: ($115.50, 2 players)
Hero ($107.50 effective stacks)

[caddie444]

$27/shove

oh and you don't have the nuts

[pocketfours]

jam

[JL]

$27/shove

oh and you don't have the nuts

27 on turn, shove river?

[caddie444]

27 on turn, shove river?

yeah

jam

Why P4's? My thought was that betting small/shoving doesn't affect his stacking off range at all (he's never folding a K, 10's full) and it gives him some chance to spew/bluff turn "scare card" since we bet smaller on the turn than on the flop should he be some donk... Plus we might get some value out of JJ-QQ if we bet turn small but he likely won't call a shove unless for some reason he thinks we're FOS in a 4B pot

[griffey24]

I like the small bet/shove river.

Let him convince himself that he can rep Kx or Ax and shove and get us off of QQ/JJ or something. Let him float with QQ/JJ and hit a straight or boat.

[Alexos]

prefer a check or small bet than a shove

whatever he calls a shove with he would bet himself

[Alexos]

shove gets better with TT, at least he can call like AJ/AQ that he floated but might pot control turn with. But now we have blockers to those.

[IowaSkinsFan]

Check turn bet any river.

[JL]

Check turn bet any river.

Shove river if turn checks through?

[pocketfours]

Should matter very little what line you take. I think jamming turn will look the weakest of all options. Checking the turn gives a free card but will look slightly less bluffy. I think checking is much better than betting small. Against some opponents I would check turn and c/c most rivers.

If I played this myself I would bet $16.50 on the flop and go from there.

[IowaSkinsFan]

Shove river if turn checks through?

Yeah

[meeloche]

Generally I'd go with a small bet then river shove but I don't mind checking turn shoving river.

[griffey24]

Maybe its just a psychological thing and I could be the only one on this level. But I'd almost expect someone with AK/KK/AA here to check the turn, so a turn check here almost looks stronger to me than a small blocking bet that still might be trying to get some fold equity.

[pokerfish1]

20 to 30 bet on turn,then shove river

[Alexos]

guys think of his range though. Kxs,Txs,QQ/JJ/KK/AJs/AQ/AK/airball

Out of all of these, the only ones that might call a shove but won't necessarily bet themselves is AJ,AQ, and there's little combos of that.

Does he call a shove with Tx,JJ,QQ? i don't think so.

Betting really small on turn seems like a decent option, since we widen his calling range significantly, and by really small I mean like 20-25$, which could also look mega strong but we clearly have stack size issue here unfortunately.

The other option is to check twice and hope he turns whatever hand into a bluff on river, but I'd rather do this vs a good reg than a random villain.

I think check turn shove river is the worst of all three. We don't widen his calling range compared to just shoving turn, nor do we make our range look super weak like checking twice would.

/random thoughts

[bspahn]

does anybody want to CHECK this flop?
seems to me if we get raised we're in a super terrible spot here oop...

[DropTheBanana]

Check turn bet any river.

I like this.