Quote Originally Posted by shallam View Post
Well....yuck. My personal experience with hands like this is that you are beat and should fold. But just for the heck of it I'll go thru a quickie analysis using a pot odds vs hand range thought process.


I would put my opp on three types of hands, sets, flush draws and misc (two pairs, overpairs, etc). Against a set you are in terrible shape around 2%, or 49 to 1, yuck. Against a flush draw you are about 50-50, many flush draws will also have an overdcard, pair, or gutshot. The last category is the toughest, the middle of this group is something like two pair 8-7 type hand, you are a 3 to 1 dog against this hand.

Here is the summary:
Group 1 = 2%
Group 2 = 50%
Group 3 = 25%
---------
Mean = 26%


This is about 3 to 1 and you are getting only about 2 to 1 from the pot.


In the absence of specific knowledge about this player playing recklessly I fold.
this would work but there isnt an equal amount of combos in each group so you cannot just take a straight up averaage like that