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  1. #1
    Quote Originally Posted by Lyric View Post
    I've found that analyzing complex problems is easier if it is reduced to its most basic form and building up from there. Understanding is more easily lost if we attempt to start at complex.

    We can continue to add people to the island, but the ideas apply to modern society as well as they do here on a two man island. See my above example regarding a legless man and two normal men arriving on the island.
    Your idea of breaking things down is correct, but your application is like understanding microbiology by breaking down cosmology. Modern society and your small island society operate on very different paradigms. Don't kid yourself into thinking you can cross compare to come up with any semblance of a conclusion
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    Quote Originally Posted by wufwugy View Post
    Your idea of breaking things down is correct, but your application is like understanding microbiology by breaking down cosmology. Modern society and your small island society operate on very different paradigms. Don't kid yourself into thinking you can cross compare to come up with any semblance of a conclusion
    You might have to elaborate on this one. Economics (creation and exchange of stuff) is not dominated by where people think they fit into society's fictitious financial ladder.

    These are the fantasies of political agendas. They are not reality.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lyric View Post
    You might have to elaborate on this one. Economics (creation and exchange of stuff) is not dominated by where people think they fit into society's fictitious financial ladder.

    These are the fantasies of political agendas. They are not reality.
    I think you misunderstood my point, which was that even though the same word (economics) is used, a tiny island economy operates on a different enough paradigm than the massive global economy that comparing them in order to explain them is false.

    Until you scale population, industry, and most everything else correctly, you can't really compare the two. One example: a small economy is systemically incapable of supporting an auto industry. You simply cannot mix and match facets of that economy with one that is actually capable of supporting an auto industry. They're just two entirely different things
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    Quote Originally Posted by wufwugy View Post
    I think you misunderstood my point, which was that even though the same word (economics) is used, a tiny island economy operates on a different enough paradigm than the massive global economy that comparing them in order to explain them is false.

    Until you scale population, industry, and most everything else correctly, you can't really compare the two. One example: a small economy is systemically incapable of supporting an auto industry. You simply cannot mix and match facets of that economy with one that is actually capable of supporting an auto industry. They're just two entirely different things
    One man can run an auto manufacturing industry. That's how cars were invented and developed. To manufacture them millions at a time takes cooperation, and that cooperation should be voluntary for best results.

    Continuing to claim that a five man island does not translate to a million man island is beginning to sound like complete hooey. At what point does it magically transform into a different economic paradigm? Fifty people? One thousand? 12,045? Where?

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