Using a HUD at microstakes

[oskar]

You can get so much from bet sizing and timing, but it's certainly valuable to know who hasn't opened a hand in forever, and who's constantly raising.
Use a hud imo, but start with one stat at a time. Having vpip/pfr/3b stats is extremely valuable. Overvaluing aggression stats can hurt you a lot - most utterly useless stat ever btw.

[PlayToWin]

You can get so much from ....... timing,

Can you elaborate on reliable timing tells, even as most players are multi-tabling?

[Imthenewfish]

Can you elaborate on reliable timing tells, even as most players are multi-tabling?

i can sometimes tell that a someome has a hand with some value or they think im FoS if they're playing 20 tables and tanking and using their time bank on a river/ AI call, but I don't really see how that helps me

[supa]

I think a HUD is a great tool to have. It will help your win rate no matter how many tables your playing, the information is just to valuable.

That said, I believe that the ability to 1 or 2 table without it is invaluable. Learning to take notes, check hand histories while in play, and get reads like timing tells should be a prerequisite to using HUD. A player who can use these skills in conjunction with a HUD will be the most well rounded player and eventually be pwning the rest.

[oskar]

Can you elaborate on reliable timing tells, even as most players are multi-tabling?

When is a timing tell ever going to be something like: "took a reasonable amount of time to..."
It's mostly instant actions or timing down obnoxiously.

Or oop between a call on one street and a check on the next. It's unlikely that they would focus on another table in between. The pause between them seeing the turn card and checking can be very revealing. Especially if they aren't ever thinking about leading after c/calling the previous street: True for most regs.
I'm being vague on purpose. You're much better off figuring those things out for yourself.

[Tasha]

Overvaluing aggression stats can hurt you a lot - most utterly useless stat ever btw.

That sounds interesting. What makes you say that?

[StraightShooter]

If I were to advise an absolute beginner, I'd say avoid using a HUD right away. Learn the basics and get familiar with the game, then introduce a HUD to help your play. But honestly, it isn't that big of a deal.

[oskar]

That sounds interesting. What makes you say that?

Most people who use it don't even know how it's calculated. If you don't know how it's calculated, and/or you don't have a big enough sample I can't imagine how it could be of any use.

[Tasha]

Most people who use it don't even know how it's calculated. If you don't know how it's calculated, and/or you don't have a big enough sample I can't imagine how it could be of any use.

I sometimes get the impression people aren't too sure how to use the other stats either...

[sk8r_daniel]

Overvaluing aggression stats can hurt you a lot - most utterly useless stat ever btw.

Ditto...I removed this stat from my HUD