KK OOP when flush hits - 50nl

[Micro2Macro]

he is cold calling a 3b on the button vs mp1. i am skeptical of how wide his range really is. you seem to think its pretty wide so he'd have to be cold calling here a ton. relevant information is... what does his range look like for this? does he set mine here? how wide do you think his range gets here? 22+,AQo+, suited cards? Some people have a super wide range here and some people have a super tight range here. you say he still has Qx in his range what Qx does he have? is that congruent with your assessment of his range for cold calling your 3b here? you name a lot of hands that he could possibly have, how many of those do you think are likely? this goes back to what you set his range for cold calling here. if you don't know what his range is for cold calling here just say you don't know you've never seen him do this before, or i see him only do this with QQ+,AK, only AA, 22+,suited cards. but just because he could possibly have these possible hands doesn't mean that he actually does and there is no point in saying much about this hand if you don't really say anything about what you think his range is here. this spot is entirely Dependant on what his range for cold calling looks like.

also your added notes are totally irrelevant to the hand.

someone reply back so he can rape this thread more.

[pokerfan]

What flushes?? his range here is exactly AA,QQ or JJ given only 1% 3 bet. c/f sounds alright to me against most FR regulars unless you think that this guy is bad enough to cold call 3 bet with AQ preflop or float you with JJ.

[daven]

i don't like your 3b sizing vs the min-open.

villain has all sorts of shit, cos it's not like flatting a normal 3bet. Mostly pairs, suited broadways, AJo+. Flop and i'd be very interested in his fold-to-3b rate and whether you think he's the floater type - 18-12s typically don't float that much cos they call planning to, but then get scared on the turn..

sets are less in his range after he calls on a two-tone board. He won't be folding his QJs/QKs/AQ sub-range on the turn. Dunno what flushes you think he has when you hold the flush K and the Q is on the board. If you think he's passive enough he'll be calling the ace flush draw on this turn, and cos of these combos i make it $15 to go. I actually don't see him raising any of his range on this turn...

[aka_red]

this is exactly what i'm talking about. everybody has a different idea of what they think this guy's range is.. which probably means this guy's range could be anything. and you have no idea what his range is and therefore no idea how to proceed because given his range you should be doing different things vs the tight range you should prob c/f vs the looser range you should be going for stacks.

[caddie444]

i don't like your 3b sizing vs the min-open.

Well it has been my standard vs mini opens and thanks for pointing it out b/c it's likely not optimal vs many opponents.

Flop and i'd be very interested in his fold-to-3b rate and whether you think he's the floater type -

72% fold to 3 bet and I would say he's not a pure floater

I actually don't see him raising any of his range on this turn...

Yah well I b/f'd $14 which is prob the worst line, which is why I posted the hand

this is exactly what i'm talking about. everybody has a different idea of what they think this guy's range is.. which probably means this guy's range could be anything. and you have no idea what his range is and therefore no idea how to proceed because given his range you should be doing different things vs the tight range you should prob c/f vs the looser range you should be going for stacks.

Yah I guess the reason I was so lost in this spot is because I really had no idea what his cold calling range here is as I had no relevant history/reads on him nor had I noticed him cold call a 3B like this. Since I don't know I guess I should err on the safe side and c/f would prob be best.

someone reply back so he can rape this thread more.

+1 and Zilla can keep raping whoever or whatever he wants so long as I learn something

[Micro2Macro]

how is our 3bet size no good?