50NL AA 320bb deep

[Vi-Zer0Skill]

i hate to bet/fold this flop but it is probably the best line. my problem with betting the flop is that you end up on the turn OOP, still not pot committed on a super drawy board. i was thinking maybe c/r the flop; fold to a flop shove but if you get just called i'd be a lot more comfortable shoving the turn (and you'd have the option). deep stack is tricky tho; some players will probably never be bluffing after a certain pot size, but some regs are willing to run some huge bluffs even at 50/100nl

this hand is somewhat similar; big pair OOP deepstack on scary board etc. i should have 4bet preflop, but look what happened when i took a pot control line with my overpair OOP.. no history or unusual hands before this one

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (5 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

saw flop | saw showdown

MP ($254.15)
Button ($239.55)
SB ($93.85)
BB ($265.25)
Hero (UTG) ($251.90)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with K, K
Hero bets $4, MP raises to $13, 3 folds, Hero calls $9

Flop: ($28.50) 5, 6, 9 (2 players)
Hero checks, MP bets $18, Hero calls $18

Turn: ($64.50) 10 (2 players)
Hero checks, MP bets $38, Hero calls $38

River: ($140.50) 7 (2 players)
Hero checks, MP bets $99, Hero calls $99

Total pot: $338.50 | Rake: $2

Results:
Hero had K, K (one pair, Kings).
MP had A, Q (high card, Ace).
Outcome: Hero won $336.50

[caddie444]

i should have 4bet preflop, but look what happened when i took a pot control line with my overpair OOP.. no history or unusual hands before this one

If he's 3B'ing the button wide then you should either be 4B'ing or c/r'ing a very high% of flops. This deep a 4B is almost mandatory. If he's not 3B'ing wide then you should be 4B'ing for value against a strong range. Going into c/c mode is a recipe for disaster IMO

[TonyB73]

You're in a tough spot when he raises the flop.

His stats suggest that he hates to fold to a 3bet, especially in position, and he's not particularly aggro overall. I would think that 77,88,99,JTs are all consistent with his play preflop, and his line on the flop suggests one of those hands is particularly likely. I think there is some chance he plays KK/QQ this way sometimes, but usually not so you'd have to discount them.

Do you have any reads on how he plays his draws? I think quite a few players at 50NL would raise a flush or open ended straight draw on that flop (this becomes far less likely with the turn action, but I think our key decision is on the flop here).

If you don't think he plays a flush or open ended straight draw this way on the flop, you need to fold I think. If he does play a draw that way, you
probably have enough equity to shove over given there's only 13 combos of sets or straights (given our range above) and plenty more than that of flush and straight draws.

If you think he is likely to bet, an alternative line may be to check-raise the flop. That puts the pressure back on him to make a decision for his stack, probably allows you to get away relatively cheaply (~$50) when you are way behind (because he will call or shove over) and saves you from a very sticky spot.

[TonyB73]

If he's 3B'ing the button wide then you should either be 4B'ing or c/r'ing a very high% of flops. This deep a 4B is almost mandatory. If he's not 3B'ing wide then you should be 4B'ing for value against a strong range. Going into c/c mode is a recipe for disaster IMO

I fully agree. I don't want to be playing KK OOP this deep in a 3bet pot if I can help it, so I'm 4betting this to about $37 preflop about 100% of the time.