Quote Originally Posted by surviva316 View Post
fold pre.

i really don't understand flop. i don't get why his range is weak enough for us to c/r at it with a hand with terrible equity on a board that's gonna see a lot of 3b's.
I guess it's all assumption at the end of the day, isn't it? Of the 7 previous cbets this villain had made this was the first time he had deviated from his standard sizing, and his timing on the flop seemed suspicious although I don't think I mentioned that. It's easier to assume he's playing weak with a draw or a hand he's unsure of than to give him credit for slowplaying flop and turn with a nut hand, especially when as noted the fish at the table are getting the better of him. Like, can we give him credit for betting small to induce?

If villain is only ever chasing a 4th diamond that he will bet checked to on the turn or river, then if that diamond hits and he checks back it's possible 4d is the best hand and he will let me show it down. Is he going to turn JsJc into a bluff if the river is a 4th diamond? Is he really chasing JdJs just to show down for free?

But yeah, if we assume all overpairs, with or without a diamond, bet the flop bigger, than that leaves tricky flopped flushes, weak made hands and diamond draws. So wouldn't that range be weighted to weak made hands and diamond draws?

Anyway, results: Villain used most of their timebank and folded.

The reason I've posted a couple of hands like this is because I'm trying to get a feel for the ranges I'm putting people on and the weakest hands people can call with in the spots I've posted. I appreciate the input I've had from people in this thread and the others.