worse trips

[rpm]

i attempted to find out at how wide villain's range has to be (starting at the river range i assigned him, and gradually inserting hands from the turn range in order of strength) and found that if he ever does this with AQ, a snap fold becomes a roughly break-even call. turns out that (i guess) due to the few possible combos of Tx available because you hold one, if villain bets the river with AQ we have a roughly break-even call:

Board: Ts 5c Qd Tc 7s
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 31.579% 31.58% 00.00% 12 0.00 { Td6d }
Hand 1: 68.421% 68.42% 00.00% 26 0.00 { 55, AQs, ATs, KTs, QTs, JTs, T8s+, AQo, ATo, KTo, QTo, JTo, T8o+ }

obviously it's debatable if he limps AQ, and i still prefer the bet/fold line on river, but it's interesting to see how the blockers involved in this hand can make such a difference between a snap fold (you have 0% equity versus T8+, 55) and a break even call (you have 31% with the addition to that range of just 12 combos between AQo and AQs)

[philly and the phanatics]

i attempted to find out at how wide villain's range has to be (starting at the river range i assigned him, and gradually inserting hands from the turn range in order of strength) and found that if he ever does this with AQ, a snap fold becomes a roughly break-even call. turns out that (i guess) due to the few possible combos of Tx available because you hold one, if villain bets the river with AQ we have a roughly break-even call:

Board: Ts 5c Qd Tc 7s
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 31.579% 31.58% 00.00% 12 0.00 { Td6d }
Hand 1: 68.421% 68.42% 00.00% 26 0.00 { 55, AQs, ATs, KTs, QTs, JTs, T8s+, AQo, ATo, KTo, QTo, JTo, T8o+ }

obviously it's debatable if he limps AQ, and i still prefer the bet/fold line on river, but it's interesting to see how the blockers involved in this hand can make such a difference between a snap fold (you have 0% equity versus T8+, 55) and a break even call (you have 31% with the addition to that range of just 12 combos between AQo and AQs)

thanks rpm and jay loi great thought out responses, thanks again.

sorry spoony, havent been in the swing for a while and ranges never became natural for me (still working on it)

[rpm]

sorry spoony, havent been in the swing for a while and ranges never became natural for me (still working on it)

me neither. i'm terrible at forming ranges. but i'm getting better by doing exercises like the one i did around the hand in this thread.