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    Something to think about in spots like this is that any heart is going to kill your action against hands you beat, so you should go ahead and try to get as much money out of hands that would be scared off by another heart as you can (ie: AJ+). Calling seems cool, but a heart is shutting down your action against a huge part of his range.
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    Quote Originally Posted by spoonitnow View Post
    Something to think about in spots like this is that any heart is going to kill your action against hands you beat, so you should go ahead and try to get as much money out of hands that would be scared off by another heart as you can (ie: AJ+). Calling seems cool, but a heart is shutting down your action against a huge part of his range.
    this. 3b whatever amount you believe will make villain think you are the most FoS and tempt him the most to shove over with draws.

    unrelated note, i prefer 4bb's PF because i'm not really stealing with a wide range against this villain in this spot. thoughts? what do people do in this spot against an 18/13 with 5% 3b? against a 50/2?
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    Good points made guys, I wish I had thought of this when I was playing b/c the heart did fall and killed my action.

    Quote Originally Posted by surviva316 View Post

    unrelated note, i prefer 4bb's PF because i'm not really stealing with a wide range against this villain in this spot. thoughts? what do people do in this spot against an 18/13 with 5% 3b? against a 50/2?
    You mean he's 3Betting 5% from the bb when the sb opens? I posted a thread a while ago where I opened AK in the sb and got 3B:

    Click---->http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...ax-177015.html

    I think the general consensus was to fold unless we're sure he's exploiting us.

    Vs the 50/2 guy a lot depends on his postflop tendencies but is an obvious 4x pre for value IMO
    Last edited by caddie444; 02-24-2010 at 02:13 AM.


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    Quote Originally Posted by surviva316 View Post
    unrelated note, i prefer 4bb's PF because i'm not really stealing with a wide range against this villain in this spot. thoughts? what do people do in this spot against an 18/13 with 5% 3b? against a 50/2?
    This is probably a leak. If your opponent is nit-taggy you should probably open very wide from SB - and open smaller. Once they learn to 3bet, you can dial it down again. But 0% 3bets in 100 hands and 18 vpip - raise any two to $0.50 is not unreasonable - until he adjusts. Ok - so he almost has to adjust, but if you can trust that he adjusts badly and puts himself in situations he's not comfortable in that is not necessarily a problem.

    I try not to vary my bet sizes too much and I tend to use 4bb (in 6max) in UTG and HJ with 3bb in CO, BTN and SB, but you could make an argument for coming all the way down to/near 2bb. Maybe 2.25bb ($0.55-$0.60). If he's folding to any bet size, there's no point putting more money in as it'll only bite your profit the few times he does have a hand he's comfortable playing with.

    Even an 18/13 with 5% you should probably open a wide range against if it folds to you in the SB. A 50/2 will depend a lot on post-flop tendencies. Generally one principle for adjusting to tendencies is to raise bigger if he's fit-or-fold post (so the pot you win when he inevitably folds is bigger) and to raise less often (with hand equity) and bigger if he's a calling station post as the bigger pot means you get more value out of your hands when you make them.

    Nitty people love to fold.

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