Top Trips/TK OTF; 4Bet Pot

[DoubleJ]

Fifth hand at this table so no stats/reads on villain.

Preflop - would you call 4Bet IP w/ AKo?

Flop - This is a simple shove, right?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.02 BB (6 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

BB ($5.08)
UTG ($2.10)
MP ($2.73)
CO ($2.81)
Hero (Button) ($3.16)
SB ($2.21)

Preflop: Hero is Button with A, K
UTG bets $0.07, 2 folds, Hero raises to $0.22, 2 folds, UTG raises to $0.80, Hero calls $0.58

Flop: ($1.63) K, K, 7 (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero ???

[supa]

Bets

[DoubleJ]

hello supa - merry noo year, an all that.

what size bet here, plizz?

2/3 pot = $1.10, and UTG has $1.30 left behind.

[supa]

Sizing advice should be left to the pros but I would def bet $1.10.

*edit* I would ship pre.

[JKDS]

I would def bet $1.10..

Leaves utg with $0.20 We can do pretty much anything here, and i think its a toss up. Checking might make villain bet/bluff a hand he'd fold otherwise (like if he had AQ for somereason...unlikely i know), betting small might make him more inclined to call with like QQ/AA which he might fold to a shove (i know i know, unlikely), and shoving might just be the easiest. The board is so dry, we really dont lose anything by doing any option. Check, bet like 0.50, or ship imo

[supa]

[gingerwizard]

On the flop as JKDS said. I guess the question was about pre-flop. I suppose with no reads I'm not sure I'm a big fan of calling a 4-bet.

What do you think the "standard" 4-bet range of an unknown at 2NL is?

[DoubleJ]

What do you think the "standard" 4-bet range of an unknown at 2NL is?

KK+?

[Hoopy]

I think 5bet jamming is better than calling the 4bet pre, AKo doesn't flop well and he's made such a huge 4bet that it's either jam or time on the flop. Unless someone is known to be a huge nit it's rarely going to be a mistake to get AK in pre.

On the flop his checking range is usually QQ/JJ both of which will call a $1.30 shove.

[gingerwizard]

KK+?

Lets run with the calculation then. Suppose you really think the 4bet range is KK+.

1. What is your equity vs this range?
2. Does he ever fold to a 5bet shove pre-flop?

If you cold call....
3. What do you do on a Axx flop?
4. What do you do on a Kxx flop? (Or an AKx flop)
5. What sort of flops do you call an AI bet on?

Start with the range KK+, answer these questions, and decide whether or not Jamming, Calling, or folding are best pf. Then expand the 4 bet range and repeat to see how wide it has to be before Calling>Jamming/folding (if ever) and before Jamming>Calling/folding.

[rpm]

jam or fold pre imo. i don' know much about 3/4/5betting preflop at 2nl anymore but i'm guessing it's pretty scarce and nutted. like JJ+,AK at widest right? i'm going to go with that assumption and say to just jam the flop. he's calling you down 100% of the time. however it's only because villain's range is so well-defined and strong that he's never folding that i want to jam. normally (ie when villain's range contains some hands that will ever fold) on these boards i'd go something like $0.4 -> jam turn with my value range.

[EasyPoker]

This is 2nl man, it'd be hard not to get it in pre

But looking at it without 2nl-tilt, his range probably crushes at worst, flips at best with us

[kickass]

I dont mind getting it in or folding but calling sucks balls, Id prolly fold without reads pre LDO not now

[supa]

KK+?

I have a hard time believing this. Surely some villains are 4betting 88, AQ and some other random shit at 2nl still. The fact that he didn't 4bet ship might be an indication that he isn't a complete moron but I'd expect to see KK+ ship pre more often than not.

*edit* and I'd expect worse to call a 5bet here.