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  1. #1

    Default Hand Reviews, 2nl

    I am new to the forums, just registered to get some critiques on my micro stake hands. I play 6max and Full Ring @2nl. I try to play a tight style but I still have plenty of brain farts and call station moments.


    HAND #1

    This came from a session of Rush I played after hitting some nice hands the night before. I don't normally play rush but I thought I would test the waters. I have no previous hands with the villain so no reads.

    Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.05 BB (6 handed)

    Button ($8.88)
    SB ($4.98)
    BB ($5)
    UTG ($4.16)
    MP ($2.47)
    Hero (CO) ($4.90)

    Preflop I just standard open 3xBB with any premium hand and get flatted by the BB.

    Preflop: Hero is CO with A, A
    2 folds, Hero bets $0.16, 2 folds, BB calls $0.11

    Flop: ($0.34) 3, K, 6 (2 players)
    BB bets $0.20, Hero calls $0.20

    The donk lead on the flop confuses me. My first thought is a set (33, 66). Next I think maybe its just top pair KQ or maybe looser KJ/K10. I feel AK, KK would have reraised PF.

    Turn: ($0.74) Q (2 players)
    BB bets $0.44, Hero calls $0.44

    Now I'm just off set by the aggression and tank another call. Im putting him on KQ or a set. His bet doesn't seem like the normal over aggressive Str=Weak I normally see at 2nl. It really feels like a value bet.

    River: ($1.62) 10 (2 players)
    BB bets $0.97, Hero folds

    So after call stationing 2 streets I feel well behind and there's no way I'm calling this bet.

    Total pot: $1.62 | Rake: $0.10

    I feel I could have played this hand so much better by reraising the flop to see where I was at. The only thing I'm afraid of was getting reraised and shoving only to see a set. The donk lead just felt funny to me. The way I played it I definately should have folded the turn.

    On another thought, I don't normally see this betting pattern from an aggressive flush draw. It could be possible he was playing a Kxs also. Anytime I hit TP with FD i normally play aggressivley.

    Hand #2

    Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.02 BB (5 handed) @ 6 max table

    Button ($3.56)
    SB ($1.05)
    Hero (BB) ($2)
    UTG ($1.97)
    MP ($2.05)

    I don't normally flat call SC's unless there are a lot of callers to the pot, but every once in awhile I'll call in position or BB for cheap.

    This hand again is against a villain I don't have a read on (4 hands on PokerTracker). I hit a combo draw on the flop with a ton of outs and from what I've read I'm a slight favorite to any overpair or TPTK so I don't mind re-raising and shoving the flop. I don't think I'd ever be folding in this situation.

    Preflop: Hero is BB with 8, 7
    2 folds, Button bets $0.04, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.02

    Flop: ($0.09) 5, K, 6 (2 players)
    Hero checks, Button bets $0.12, Hero raises to $0.30, Button raises to $3.52 (All-In), Hero calls $1.66 (All-In)

    Turn: ($4.01) 8 (2 players, 2 all-in)

    River: ($4.01) 10 (2 players, 2 all-in)

    Total pot: $4.01 | Rake: $0.26



    Hand #3

    Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.02 BB (6 handed)

    Villain is 45/7 over 60 hands. I'm always scared to shove QQ pf, just because I've run into AA, KK so often with it and that tends to be the only thing reraising/shoving my 3bets. The reason I holded this hand was because the villain had such a low PR and I had not seen him shove/reraise PF before. However, I do see quite a few people shoving light from sb, especially at this level.

    SB ($1.82)
    BB ($1.54)
    UTG ($0.90)
    Hero (MP) ($1.96)
    CO ($0.83)
    Button ($2.13)

    Preflop: Hero is MP with Q, Q
    1 fold, Hero bets $0.06, CO calls $0.06, 1 fold, SB raises to $0.16, 1 fold, Hero raises to $0.48, 1 fold, SB raises to $1.30, 1 fold

    Total pot: $1.04 | Rake: $0


    I think I was being too cautious with QQ. Should I have called to see the flop and played from position or just called the shove?

    Edited: Please do not post results - kmind
    Last edited by philspeedy68; 04-13-2011 at 12:10 PM.
  2. #2
    i like a flop raise in hand 1.. make it 70c or so, if he has a set he's going to flat or shove. You can fold to the shove, or likely check behind on the turn because he'll probably let you lead. which means you get to see the turn and river and stack him if you catch the A.

    If he led the turn i'd probably fold seems unlikely he'd dont the flop, flat call a raise then lead without something big.

    i'm no expert though.
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    Hand 1 is a fold because he can have a ton of flushes/sets/two pairs. Raising flop is probably fine as I can't really see him donking a set at that amount+on a board we're so likely to continuation bet but I don't know maybe 5NL is different. Calling flop/turn is fine.

    Hand 2 is fine. If he bet smaller I might be more inclined to call flop/raise turn.

    For #3 please see this thread: http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...ll-173396.html . If you flat the 5bet you should know what to do on the flop given that villain will most likely always go all-in with how much money he has remaining...

    Also, what made you want to 4bet but then fold with QQ? Can you give out some ranges for what you think call your 4bet as well as 5bet? I think once you get a good grasp you'll most likely feel that just flatting his 3bet is best due to keeping his range the widest. If I 4bet it's not to fold because you are bluffing unless he can flat a lot.
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    H1 I raise the flop, I think he has a bunch of K's in his range that could well call. More difficult without reads though is what to do if he shoves over the raise. As played, it's fine to fold river I think.

    H2 I'd say raise bigger for better fold equity. You're happy if he folds or shoves over, you're not if he calls.

    H3 Don't fold, he is 45/7, pretty sure he does that with AK all day long, in which case you have a call against KK+,AK. His range may well be even wider than that with some JJ and AQs in there.
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  5. #5
    @scott_owen
    I definitely like this line a lot. I agree with the reraise and hoping for a check on the turn for two free cards or holding to the shove.

    @kmind
    I like your insight on H1 and H2. I downloaded Poker Stove and started playing around with hand ranges.

    Also, what made you want to 4bet but then fold with QQ? Can you give out some ranges for what you think call your 4bet as well as 5bet?
    I was mainly concerned with the fact that he had PR of 7 and I had not seen him shove or 3bet the entire time at the table. The one note on him was that he had limped AKs utg. I agree that 4 betting was a bad move, especially since the only thing calling I'm at best a coin flip.

    I agree that flatting his 3bet to keep his range the widest is the best option vs 4betting and turning my hand into a bluff.

    @daviddem
    H2, What amount would you suggest? Pot was $0.21 at the time and I just 3x his cbet. Looking at the bet now I was giving him 2.83:1 odds to call which seems weak on my part. When I reraise the flop what odds should I be looking to give him? Odds near 1.5:1 seems strong and that would mean my raise would be somewhere above $0.60.

    H3, I do agree that a villain could keep raising with AK especially since he was oop, but the one note (that I had excluded earlier) I had on him was that he had limped AKs utg.
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    Make it a pot sized raise, which would be $0.45.

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