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  1. #1

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    just like to give u 1 advice new players dont chase straight and flushes to the river u will lose in the long run take it from a pro i know and can show u any stats to back this up gl everyone at the tables if u have feed back drop a line ill answer it
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    stats please
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    contrary to what you might think, that statement is contrary to current poker theory and therefore requires a proof if you want any respect at all.

    so ya, stats plaese
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    STATS NOW!!!

    Let me guess though? You just had a rough session where someone called to the river with a straight/flush draw, and "sucked out" on you? And now the pro is all frustrated, and decides to register to an online forum and inform the masses to not "chase" draws, because it's stooopid. Amirite, or amirite?
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    Nurse get some stats in here STAT.

    I ruv chase frush draw!
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    I am going to PM OP to ask for stats, I implore everyone else to do the same to speed up the stat-giving process.
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    Holy crap what a revelation. I just tried a session and didn't chase one draw! I won a MEEEELION Dolars!
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    I don't chase draws anymore. I'm just not fast enough for them.
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    Yesterday I was playing in a tournie full of pros and one of them told me I was a bad player for doing just this.

    It was toward the beginning of the tournie so blinds were low like 10/20 I got a K and Q of diamonds so called to see the flop, the flop was all smaller cards so less than 10, two of them were diamonds, so I think ok didn't really get anything but my hand isn't any worse, so I called again.

    The turn was also a small card but not the diamond my K and Q are still bigger than anything on the board so instead of folding I called because the pot was still small and even loosing what I had put in till now wouldn't have hurt me much.

    The river was a small diamond so I got my flush, somebody got a pair on the river and bet against me so I made a bit of money on this hand.

    All in all I would do the same again if the opportunity came my way, at least as long as it's early game and I get in cheap.

    The tournie was really above my level but I won the ticket to it in a free role and couldn't cash it in, so I played. Didn't do bad, but this was a seriously tight bunch of people, after four hours of playing at 2 am my time I basically gave up and went to bed. But it didn't cost me anything so was an interesting experience.

    Softy
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    Default Re: for newbies to poker

    Quote Originally Posted by glookin2
    take it from a pro i know and can show u any stats
    stats u gieb
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigspenda73
    I am going to PM OP to ask for stats, I implore everyone else to do the same to speed up the stat-giving process.
    Shouldn't we be PMing Glookin2? I mean OP hasn't even been to this thread.

    *snikker*
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ragnar4
    Quote Originally Posted by bigspenda73
    I am going to PM OP to ask for stats, I implore everyone else to do the same to speed up the stat-giving process.
    Shouldn't we be PMing Glookin2? I mean OP hasn't even been to this thread.

    *snikker*
    omg lol it took me a while but I got there
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    Quote Originally Posted by siltstrider
    I don't chase draws anymore. I'm just not fast enough for them.
    this made me lol pretty hard. lame humor that makes jkds laugh.
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    PROOFS:

    Full Tilt Pot-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (5 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

    SB ($24.75)
    BB ($26.83)
    UTG ($28.70)
    MP ($22.85)
    Hero (Button) ($28.85)

    Preflop: Hero is Button with ,
    2 folds, Hero bets $1.00, SB calls $0.90, BB calls $0.75

    Flop: ($3.00) , , (3 players)
    SB bets $0.25, BB calls $0.25, Hero folds


    I didn't have the luck odds to make that call.
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    Quote Originally Posted by grnydrowave2
    PROOFS:

    Full Tilt Pot-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (5 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

    SB ($24.75)
    BB ($26.83)
    UTG ($28.70)
    MP ($22.85)
    Hero (Button) ($28.85)

    Preflop: Hero is Button with ,
    2 folds, Hero bets $1.00, SB calls $0.90, BB calls $0.75

    Flop: ($3.00) , , (3 players)
    SB bets $0.25, BB calls $0.25, Hero folds


    I didn't have the luck odds to make that call.
    If you folded here.... You're too pro for us! Immediately head to the High-Stakes Forum!
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    Quote Originally Posted by XxStacksxX
    If you folded here.... You're too pro for us! Immediately head to the High-Stakes Forum!
    k, stake me bro. I'll triple your moniez in 4 days with my system.
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    Quote Originally Posted by grnydrowave2
    Quote Originally Posted by XxStacksxX
    If you folded here.... You're too pro for us! Immediately head to the High-Stakes Forum!
    k, stake me bro. I'll triple your moniez in 4 days with my system.
    Staking? Dude, sell some of those pokemon cards. I hear the holographic charzards are still pretty valuable.
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    You can't win if you fold.

    I have stats on this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by grnydrowave2
    PROOFS:

    Full Tilt Pot-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (5 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

    SB ($24.75)
    BB ($26.83)
    UTG ($28.70)
    MP ($22.85)
    Hero (Button) ($28.85)

    Preflop: Hero is Button with ,
    2 folds, Hero bets $1.00, SB calls $0.90, BB calls $0.75

    Flop: ($3.00) , , (3 players)
    SB bets $0.25, BB calls $0.25, Hero folds


    I didn't have the luck odds to make that call.
    [x] this hand is a joke
    [x] if the OP is a pro, then I'm mickey mouse
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    I went to bed dreaming of stats, imagine my surprise when I woke up and there weren't any stats!
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    what the poop, he has no pm button in his sig.
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    level>?
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    :P
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    Im opedipus bitch, the original balla.
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    Quote Originally Posted by XxStacksxX
    Oh wow, this is fucking ace!
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    Quote Originally Posted by XxStacksxX
    You are the man
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    It's even funnier if you look at OP's profile and see what he has under occupation. Fits nicely imo.
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    So what should I do? Be patient and try to do with what I have?
    I’m asking because a fold a lot of times when my cards are lousy
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    who else PM'ed OP

    hopefully he was out of town this weekend and will come back and give us the stats we so desperately need.
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    Quote Originally Posted by oskar
    You can't win if you fold.

    I have stats on this.
    thanks durrrr :P
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    maybe the repo man has walked off with his puter
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    I got a fever, and the only prescription is MORE STATS.
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    I PM'd him for the stats...

    I guess he could be talking about chasing draws with improper odds in which case he'd be right but he didnt clarify that...

    You'd think a pro would fully iterate that in a poker topic...not just throw out some random thought....
    But he's off to Vegas for the WSOP I guess...
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    If going against me don't worry about pot odds on that inside straight... You will get it.

    Funny video Stacks!
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    PM sent... still no stats
    Quote Originally Posted by Carroters
    The solution to getting 1 outered is a simple one. We just need to find the site that is the least rigged.
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    Don't worry guys... I'm going to head out to the WSOP to meet up with him and acquire the information we so desperately need.
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    He PM'ed me stats

    He chased one hand one time, got stacked because he missed chasing 4 outs. AI on the flop with a SPR of 22

    all draws are obviously -ev

    turns out he's an EXTREMELY quick learner.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ragnar4
    He PM'ed me stats

    He chased one hand one time, got stacked because he missed chasing 4 outs. AI on the flop with a SPR of 22

    all draws are obviously -ev

    turns out he's an EXTREMELY quick learner.
    Is that a stat or an anecdote?
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    he can't pm with 2 posts
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    Quote Originally Posted by XxStacksxX
    lol, "but how much did you lose."

    Can't tell you how many times people have asked me that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigspenda73
    he can't pm with 2 posts
    You can make a response though
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    wow, amazing thread.

    the OP should make these "Tips for newbies" posts a regular thing. I'm sure many will be made into stickies.
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    WTF? are you all deliberately mis-quoting him here?

    Quote Originally Posted by glookin2
    ...dont chase straight and flushes to the river u will lose in the long run...
    He's talking specifically about when you have a flush+OESD at the same time, which we should all be snap folding IMO, way too risky.
    Congratulations, you've won your dick's weight in sweets! Decode the message in the above post to find out how to claim your tic-tac
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    Quote Originally Posted by Outlaw
    Holy crap what a revelation. I just tried a session and didn't chase one draw! I won a MEEEELION Dolars!
    this. now i can move to the 25nl
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    I was working in the Emergency room at the local Hospital today, I kept hearing this phrase, we need this stat, we need someone to red pod stat. and now I see it in my fav poker forum. And I still see no stat? I am pissed off.
    3 3 3 I'm only half evil.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mrhappy333
    I was working in the Emergency room at the local Hospital today, I kept hearing this phrase, we need this stat, we need someone to red pod stat. and now I see it in my fav poker forum. And I still see no stat? I am pissed off.
    We need stats, STAT!
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    Fuck the stats he's a pro gawd damnit!
    "You start the game with a full pot o’ luck and an empty pot o’ experience...
    The object is to fill the pot of experience before you empty the pot of luck."

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