for newbies to poker

just like to give u 1 advice new players dont chase straight and flushes to the river u will lose in the long run take it from a pro i know and can show u any stats to back this up gl everyone at the tables if u have feed back drop a line ill answer it

stats please

contrary to what you might think, that statement is contrary to current poker theory and therefore requires a proof if you want any respect at all.

so ya, stats plaese

STATS NOW!!!

Let me guess though? You just had a rough session where someone called to the river with a straight/flush draw, and "sucked out" on you? And now the pro is all frustrated, and decides to register to an online forum and inform the masses to not "chase" draws, because it's stooopid. Amirite, or amirite?

Nurse get some stats in here STAT.

I ruv chase frush draw!

I am going to PM OP to ask for stats, I implore everyone else to do the same to speed up the stat-giving process.

Holy crap what a revelation. I just tried a session and didn't chase one draw! I won a MEEEELION Dolars!

I don't chase draws anymore. I'm just not fast enough for them.

Yesterday I was playing in a tournie full of pros and one of them told me I was a bad player for doing just this.

It was toward the beginning of the tournie so blinds were low like 10/20 I got a K and Q of diamonds so called to see the flop, the flop was all smaller cards so less than 10, two of them were diamonds, so I think ok didn't really get anything but my hand isn't any worse, so I called again.

The turn was also a small card but not the diamond my K and Q are still bigger than anything on the board so instead of folding I called because the pot was still small and even loosing what I had put in till now wouldn't have hurt me much.

The river was a small diamond so I got my flush, somebody got a pair on the river and bet against me so I made a bit of money on this hand.

All in all I would do the same again if the opportunity came my way, at least as long as it's early game and I get in cheap.

The tournie was really above my level but I won the ticket to it in a free role and couldn't cash it in, so I played. Didn't do bad, but this was a seriously tight bunch of people, after four hours of playing at 2 am my time I basically gave up and went to bed. But it didn't cost me anything so was an interesting experience.

Softy

Originally Posted by glookin2

take it from a pro i know and can show u any stats

stats u gieb

Originally Posted by bigspenda73

I am going to PM OP to ask for stats, I implore everyone else to do the same to speed up the stat-giving process.

Shouldn't we be PMing Glookin2? I mean OP hasn't even been to this thread.

*snikker*

Originally Posted by Ragnar4

Originally Posted by bigspenda73

I am going to PM OP to ask for stats, I implore everyone else to do the same to speed up the stat-giving process.

Shouldn't we be PMing Glookin2? I mean OP hasn't even been to this thread.

*snikker*

omg lol it took me a while but I got there

Originally Posted by siltstrider

I don't chase draws anymore. I'm just not fast enough for them.

this made me lol pretty hard. lame humor that makes jkds laugh.

PROOFS:

Full Tilt Pot-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (5 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

SB ($24.75)
BB ($26.83)
UTG ($28.70)
MP ($22.85)
Hero (Button) ($28.85)

Preflop: Hero is Button with ,
2 folds, Hero bets $1.00, SB calls $0.90, BB calls $0.75

Flop: ($3.00) , , (3 players)
SB bets $0.25, BB calls $0.25, Hero folds


I didn't have the luck odds to make that call.

Originally Posted by grnydrowave2

PROOFS:

Full Tilt Pot-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (5 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

SB ($24.75)
BB ($26.83)
UTG ($28.70)
MP ($22.85)
Hero (Button) ($28.85)

Preflop: Hero is Button with ,
2 folds, Hero bets $1.00, SB calls $0.90, BB calls $0.75

Flop: ($3.00) , , (3 players)
SB bets $0.25, BB calls $0.25, Hero folds


I didn't have the luck odds to make that call.

If you folded here.... You're too pro for us! Immediately head to the High-Stakes Forum!

Originally Posted by XxStacksxX

If you folded here.... You're too pro for us! Immediately head to the High-Stakes Forum!

k, stake me bro. I'll triple your moniez in 4 days with my system.

Originally Posted by grnydrowave2

Originally Posted by XxStacksxX

If you folded here.... You're too pro for us! Immediately head to the High-Stakes Forum!

k, stake me bro. I'll triple your moniez in 4 days with my system.

Staking? Dude, sell some of those pokemon cards. I hear the holographic charzards are still pretty valuable.

You can't win if you fold.

I have stats on this.

Originally Posted by grnydrowave2

PROOFS:

Full Tilt Pot-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (5 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

SB ($24.75)
BB ($26.83)
UTG ($28.70)
MP ($22.85)
Hero (Button) ($28.85)

Preflop: Hero is Button with ,
2 folds, Hero bets $1.00, SB calls $0.90, BB calls $0.75

Flop: ($3.00) , , (3 players)
SB bets $0.25, BB calls $0.25, Hero folds


I didn't have the luck odds to make that call.

[x] this hand is a joke
[x] if the OP is a pro, then I'm mickey mouse

I went to bed dreaming of stats, imagine my surprise when I woke up and there weren't any stats!

what the poop, he has no pm button in his sig.

level>?

:P

http://www.xtranormal.com/watch?e=20090225062747756

Originally Posted by XxStacksxX

http://www.xtranormal.com/watch?e=20090225062747756

Oh wow, this is fucking ace!

Originally Posted by XxStacksxX

http://www.xtranormal.com/watch?e=20090225062747756

You are the man

It's even funnier if you look at OP's profile and see what he has under occupation. Fits nicely imo.

So what should I do? Be patient and try to do with what I have?
I’m asking because a fold a lot of times when my cards are lousy

who else PM'ed OP

hopefully he was out of town this weekend and will come back and give us the stats we so desperately need.

Originally Posted by oskar

You can't win if you fold.

I have stats on this.

thanks durrrr :P

maybe the repo man has walked off with his puter

I got a fever, and the only prescription is MORE STATS.

I PM'd him for the stats...

I guess he could be talking about chasing draws with improper odds in which case he'd be right but he didnt clarify that...

You'd think a pro would fully iterate that in a poker topic...not just throw out some random thought....
But he's off to Vegas for the WSOP I guess...

If going against me don't worry about pot odds on that inside straight... You will get it.

Funny video Stacks!

PM sent... still no stats

Don't worry guys... I'm going to head out to the WSOP to meet up with him and acquire the information we so desperately need.

He PM'ed me stats

He chased one hand one time, got stacked because he missed chasing 4 outs. AI on the flop with a SPR of 22

all draws are obviously -ev

turns out he's an EXTREMELY quick learner.

Originally Posted by Ragnar4

He PM'ed me stats

He chased one hand one time, got stacked because he missed chasing 4 outs. AI on the flop with a SPR of 22

all draws are obviously -ev

turns out he's an EXTREMELY quick learner.

Is that a stat or an anecdote?

he can't pm with 2 posts

Originally Posted by XxStacksxX

http://www.xtranormal.com/watch?e=20090225062747756

lol, "but how much did you lose."

Can't tell you how many times people have asked me that.

Originally Posted by bigspenda73

he can't pm with 2 posts

You can make a response though

wow, amazing thread.

the OP should make these "Tips for newbies" posts a regular thing. I'm sure many will be made into stickies.

WTF? are you all deliberately mis-quoting him here?

Originally Posted by glookin2

...dont chase straight and flushes to the river u will lose in the long run...

He's talking specifically about when you have a flush+OESD at the same time, which we should all be snap folding IMO, way too risky.

Originally Posted by Outlaw

Holy crap what a revelation. I just tried a session and didn't chase one draw! I won a MEEEELION Dolars!

this. now i can move to the 25nl

I was working in the Emergency room at the local Hospital today, I kept hearing this phrase, we need this stat, we need someone to red pod stat. and now I see it in my fav poker forum. And I still see no stat? I am pissed off.

Originally Posted by mrhappy333

I was working in the Emergency room at the local Hospital today, I kept hearing this phrase, we need this stat, we need someone to red pod stat. and now I see it in my fav poker forum. And I still see no stat? I am pissed off.

We need stats, STAT!

Fuck the stats he's a pro gawd damnit!