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    Default Some hands from 2NL

    Most of these stats were over 50 hands, so only a rough guideline.

    Villein was 54/8/0.9
    Thinking maybe I should have 3 bet this pre flop as his raise is weak. The river call is terrible given his stats and the board, just seem to be having a tough time folding to these big over bets even when I know its nearly always the nuts.

    PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.02 BB (5 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

    MP ($2.01)
    Button ($1.22)
    SB ($2.50)
    Hero (BB) ($2.05)
    UTG ($4.83)

    Preflop: Hero is BB with K, Q
    3 folds, SB bets $0.04, Hero calls $0.02

    Flop: ($0.08) Q, 6, 5 (2 players)
    SB bets $0.14, Hero calls $0.14

    Turn: ($0.36) 8 (2 players)
    SB bets $0.20, Hero calls $0.20

    River: ($0.76) 8 (2 players)
    SB bets $2.12 (All-In), Hero calls $1.67 (All-In)

    Total pot: $4.10


    Villein was 23/8/1.3
    I was hoping to take it down here as I can't really just call his bet, not sure if he would play 77-JJ like this though. Thoughts on the check raise?

    PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.02 BB (6 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

    UTG ($9.24)
    MP ($11.72)
    CO ($1.59)
    Button ($5)
    Hero (SB) ($1.98)
    BB ($1.35)

    Preflop: Hero is SB with A, Q
    UTG calls $0.02, 2 folds, Button bets $0.08, Hero calls $0.07, 2 folds

    Flop: ($0.20) 3, 5, 4 (2 players)
    Hero checks, Button bets $0.16, Hero raises to $0.55, Button raises to $1.57, Hero raises to $1.90 (All-In), Button calls $0.33

    Turn: ($4) J (2 players, 1 all-in)

    River: ($4) 7 (2 players, 1 all-in)

    Total pot: $4


    Villein was 25/0/1.3
    Should I fold to his min raise? It seems really nitty to do so, turn bet is almost like a check.

    PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.02 BB (6 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

    Button ($2.01)
    SB ($11.65)
    BB ($1.95)
    UTG ($6.58)
    Hero (MP) ($1.97)
    CO ($1.30)

    Preflop: Hero is MP with J, A
    1 fold, Hero bets $0.08, 1 fold, Button calls $0.08, SB calls $0.07, 1 fold

    Flop: ($0.26) Q, 10, A (3 players)
    SB checks, Hero bets $0.22, Button raises to $0.44, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.22

    Turn: ($1.14) 4 (2 players)
    Hero checks, Button bets $0.14, Hero calls $0.14

    River: ($1.42) Q (2 players)
    Hero checks, Button bets $0.68, Hero calls $0.68

    Total pot: $2.78

    I need to think more while at the tables, play less on autopilot, really try to put people on ranges instead of thinking "oh he must have this" and stop calling passive players monster shoves with TPGK.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HoopyDude
    I need to think more while at the tables, play less on autopilot, really try to put people on ranges instead of thinking "oh he must have this" and stop calling passive players monster shoves with TPGK.
    I agree 100% with all of this, and you're realizing it much easier in your online poker career than most people do. Good luck.

    Hand 1: I think you know what's up with the river here. To give you something else to think about involving this situation, if you have 41% equity on the river here you break even. Do you think have more equity than that?

    Hand 2: Yes, you can just call his bet if you want, and there's nothing wrong with that. Your check/raise is fine too. If he only calls with {TT+, 55-33} it's about break even, and his calling range is probably looser than that making it +EV. It's also worth mentioning that you're not getting better hands to fold, so it's not a bluff. You're hoping to get money in on this street with an equity advantage, making your raise for value.

    Hand 3: For me it's hard to say because his flop range is presumably pretty wide. As played against his lolable bet-sizing, I'd say it's fine.
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    Hand 1)
    Reraise preflop...he's making a shit attempt to steal blinds
    Can I assume he backed into a FD? Flop is a reraise...Unless he hit a set or has AQ or QQ there isn't much he has here that you are behind. You want to charge for the FD's which are a big possiblility.

    Hand 2)
    Villein was 23/8/1.3
    Over how many hands? (would be nice info)...
    He probably has TT+ (he raised behind a limper, pretty rare in the micro's unless they have a strong hand). Knowing what some micro players are like he could do this (IMO) with TT and JJ...since you didnt reraise pf, he expects you probably dont have QQ+.
    With a short stack, I dont know if you want to give him the chance to reraise you in after you reraise...it was unlikely that he was folding so FE would be low IMO when you tried to reraise.

    Hand 3)
    Again, # of hands would help....
    His zero PFR suggest (dependant on the # of hands) that he hit a near home run when his balls dropped and got the courage to reraise you. In my experience if he had a poor A he would just call....A reraise (even a minreraise) means he has better than a pair. They don't normally reraise for straight draws.
    As played, the river is a tough call b/c the hands he holds and beats you with are AQ and AK (not a lot)...I doubt he has trip Q's b/c he would probably fold on he flop with an A on board...
    He just seems really passive and he's betting awfully strong here (except on the turn)...

    I might also be swayed by you language...you've pretty well told us by your last comment that you lost then hands...

    I think thats that....
    Lets see what others think.
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    Quote Originally Posted by spoonitnow
    Quote Originally Posted by HoopyDude
    I need to think more while at the tables, play less on autopilot, really try to put people on ranges instead of thinking "oh he must have this" and stop calling passive players monster shoves with TPGK.
    I agree 100% with all of this, and you're realizing it much easier in your online poker career than most people do. Good luck.

    Hand 1: I think you know what's up with the river here. To give you something else to think about involving this situation, if you have 41% equity on the river here you break even. Do you think have more equity than that?
    Well my hand isn't exactly strong here since the board is paired and there's a 3 flush on it. Would someone who (stats-wise) is passive do this with a Queen, I can see the flop and turn playing the same way but the big shove on the river seems to polarize his range into really strong holdings. He could bluffing after attempting to steal but overall I don't think I have 41% equity or more against his range.

    Also I probably should say the stats in hand 3 were only over 30 hands or so, hands 1+2 were both over 50-60, meaning they might not be reliable, I'm not really sure how many hands are needed for decent stats.

    Finally Vinland your right I lost 2 out of 3 of these hands, my comment at the end came from the fact that I just realized that there are major leaks in my game that need serious work.
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    I think 60 hands is plenty to use the VPIP/PFR/AF stats...they usually dont change THAT much past 45 or so...they're probably fairly solid.

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