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  1. #1

    Default Halp.

    First hand:
    Villain seems pretty lag. Hadn't seen him showdown anything crazy.
    PokerStars - $0.10 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players

    CO: $15.72 (VPIP: 23, PFR: 16, 3Bet Preflop: 11, Hands: 45)
    BTN: $14.31
    SB: $7.25
    BB: $3.79
    Hero (UTG): $11.71
    MP: $10.28

    SB posts SB $0.05, BB posts BB $0.10

    Pre Flop: (pot: $0.15) Hero has Q A

    Hero raises to $0.30, fold, CO raises to $1.15, fold, fold, fold, Hero calls $0.85

    Now i'm looking for thoughts on a call here, given the raise size and OOP should we be leaning towards a fold more? At the time I just thought AQ was to strong against his range. But assuming he has a somewhat balanced 3bet with say, TT+, 44-22, ATs+, A6s-A2s, KJs+, T9s, 87s, 65s, AJo+, KQo, thats 11.46% of hands, which we have 52% equity, OOP against an aggressive villain. (soz if this is an easy fold for some, still getting the hang of this 6max game)


    Flop: ($2.45, 2 players) J A 5
    Hero checks, CO bets $2.00, Hero calls $2.00

    Turn: ($6.45, 2 players) 8
    Hero checks, CO bets $2.95, Hero calls $2.95

    River: ($12.35, 2 players) K
    Hero checks, CO bets $7.05 ?

    As for the rest of the hand, he Cbets 100%, and turn and river 75%(3/4) and 63%(2/3) respectively (are these even relevant given small sample?). River is an easy fold for me, think he has Ah or not willing to get rid of AK, KK or a hand stronger than mine.

    Can I fold this earlier? Just felt like a mass calling station the whole hand.


    Second hand:
    PokerStars - $0.10 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players

    CO: $19.45
    Hero (BTN): $10.71
    SB: $3.56
    BB: $11.66 (VPIP: 22, PFR: 21, 3Bet Preflop: 14, Hands: 120)
    UTG: $4.81

    SB posts SB $0.05, BB posts BB $0.10

    Pre Flop: (pot: $0.15) Hero has A 9

    fold, CO raises to $0.30, Hero calls $0.30, fold, BB calls $0.20

    Flop: ($0.95, 3 players) T J A
    BB checks, CO checks, Hero bets $0.80, BB raises to $2.00 ?

    Expect a turn bet almost always if called. And given his flat pre, the only value range I see villain doing this with is a set of tens, straights, 2pairs (excluding AJs) OESD and then pair plus gutshots. Against that we have 45% equity.

    Not sure which line to take from here. Raising?
  2. #2
    Hand 1:
    You are giving far too much credence to stats over such a small sample. Over 45 hands all I would really take from his hud stats is that he appears to be a regular who has been 3 betting slightly (again really small sample).

    Preflop I think this is a very bad call. Villain's range, even if he is 3 betting a lot, will be very polarized between hands that have us dominated, (QQ+ AK, and maybe AQ) and hands that will play well against un IP. I would probably expect him to flat in this position with most of his small pairs. If villain is positionally aware his 3bet of your UTG open also shows a ton of strength.

    Flop I think c/c is correct.
    Those barreling stats are irrelevant.
    What is your plan on different rivers after calling turn?

    Hand 2:
    Hand 2 I would definitely fold pre just because of how much money we will lose to AT-AK consistently.
    Definitely b/f flop. I think.
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    hand one i'd fold pre, play flop the same as played, C/F turn and C/F river

    hand two i'd fold (actually probably 3b, but not call) pre. bet flop slightly smaller and now i'd fold
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    Yeah I'm probably folding to a river shove on non heart as well. Then hating myself for being a station.

    Really? If were folding A9 on the button to a CO open what are we calling with? At first I was for folding as well, but remember it's the BB raising us, not the pre flop opener. Is he really flatting AK/AQ there?
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    i may be out of touch but my perception of A5-A9o is that they play like shit when we don't have the initiative, even in position. i can't be bothered typing out what my exact calling range would be but it would probably involve 22-TT or JJ (though i may fold the lower pairs if we have chronic 3bettors in the blinds) most suited aces, most suited broadways, KJo+,65s-T9s, a few of the higher suited one-gappers and maybe some more suited two-gappers if i feel like i have a significant postflop edge.

    again, i could be way off

    edit: the above would be a typical calling range for me vs a reg. you provided no info on the player in the CO so i just went with that. if he's a 66/60 maniac who has been open-shoving every flop, that's a different story
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    as for BB flatting having AQ or AK in hand 2, why are those hands your primary concerns? i'd expect to see two pair, flopped straights, or maybe even TT when he C/R's. moreso than AQ or AK
    Last edited by rpm; 12-11-2013 at 05:57 AM.
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    Hand 1 - his 3b sizing is very big. I'd just fold pre. As played, I would play it the same and fold river.

    Hand 2 - Fold or 3b pre imo. If you stove a range of suited hands, we have well enough cold call range in this spot even folding A9o and worse. As played, easy flop fold.
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    You are going to lose lots of money playing this way long term. Both hands are pre flop folds. The reason is, even if you hit an Ace you have no clue if you are ahead or behind and it's going to be expensive to find out. 1st hand would be slightly OK if he didn't pump it up so high pre flop. He wants money in there quick and AQ isn't beating that range.

    Are you playing one table or are you multi-tabling? I ask because I find myself less likely to marry these pre flop hands when playing 2 or more tables at once. But if I'm sitting at one table not getting good hands for a while, I tend to overplay hands like AQ.

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