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  1. #1

    Default call Big Raise - or all in??

    Alright, I've been playing awhile and want some advice.
    1st scenerio
    Sitting on BB with 88
    Quite a big raise (close to half yer stack) - do you flat call - re-raise all in or fold????
    I ask this because I want to know if you guys think its better to raise all in in hopes of a fold by the other party (unlikely).

    2nd Scenerio
    Sitting Mid pack with 10 10
    Small raise ahead of you, still sb and bb to come - call - re-raise - fold - allin??

    This site has been very helpful to me and I know all questions really cannot be answered totally correctly because it depends on the types of players at the table, but pls. give it a shot

    Thanks
  2. #2
    Are you playing a cash game or a tournament?

    How many players are at the table? How many chips do these players have?

    Need more information or else these questions cannot be answered.
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  3. #3
    I'm assuming you're playing full ring cash games, both you and the opponent with full stacks.

    In the first situation the raise is so big to make implied odds pretty much irrelevant. This means that there is not really any room to play this post flop, and you can only call if you are willing to go all-in. When the call costs half your stack preflop it's pretty much push or fold. You have to think your hand is better than theirs to push.

    88 isn't that strong of a hand. 99+ all dominate it, and it's not much more than 50/50 against something like AKs. To go all in you must think that your hand is going to be best most of the time. A normal player will only be doing big bets with big hands - often something like AA - JJ, AKs. This makes it a FOLD.

    If you've seen the player to be a maniac, and doing big raises nearly every hand, then you might be tempted to push. No matter how good a read you have on the other player you will lose a lot of the time with this hand though. I think you're better off waiting for a better hand to risk your stack with. Stick to folding.

    Scenario 2 isn't so easy. If it's a standard raise like 4xbb, then call hoping to hit a set or all under cards. If it's a minraise from someone who raises a lot of hands, then it might be a reraise. Don't go all in. The only cards that will call are a better hand or possibly a coin-toss. If you do this it makes you the maniac that other reasonable players will make a lot of money out of.
  4. #4
    As courtie said, there are many more factors then the one you mentioned that are needed for an intellegent decision.

    Generally speaking, 88 is not a hand I want to be involved in a big pot preflop unless it is a very shorthanded table, or I am in a tournament and I have low M

    TT is a much better hand, but when facing a raise a lot depends on who the raiser is


  5. #5
    I usually play single table sng's and multi table tourneys - most interested in a Full table analysis in a MTT> with a mid sized stack - raiser has more chips.
  6. #6
    Don't listen to me then.
  7. #7
    Don't go calling huge raises with 88 in a tournament when the stacks are deep. With low Ms it is a different story.

    With the TT hand, again assuming deep stacks, you can call, you can raise, but an all-in reraise of a small initial raise is just asking for a dominating hand to call you.

    And as others have said, you haven't given enough information for any kind of definite answer.
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    Thanks for your help guys

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