$0.50 + .05 early hand

[TheScientist23]

I know I probably should have folded since it was so early in the tournie, but I had trips with a flush draw and at this level, people slowplaying TP on the flop then betting on the turn is VERY common, so I thought that's what was going down...

Hand #55018540-6 at SnG-4442955 (No Limit Hold'em Sit and Go)
Started at 07/Jul/08 19:50:52

Queen Rose is at seat 0 with 1470.
bongripz is at seat 1 with 1450.
frankslinda is at seat 3 with 1460.
TheScientist3 is at seat 4 with 1500.
BiloxiBomber7 is at seat 5 with 1410.
thecrippler97 is at seat 6 with 3270.
maddcow2 is at seat 7 with 1410.
mike58 is at seat 8 with 1670.
beetlebomb is at seat 9 with 1360.
The button is at seat 1.

frankslinda posts the small blind of 10.
TheScientist3 posts the big blind of 20.
TheScientist3: 9s 5s

Pre-flop:
BiloxiBomber7 folds. thecrippler97 folds. maddcow2
calls. mike58 folds. beetlebomb folds. Queen Rose
calls. bongripz folds. frankslinda calls.
TheScientist3 checks.

Flop (board: Ks 9c 6s):
frankslinda checks. TheScientist3 checks. maddcow2
bets 80. Queen Rose calls. frankslinda calls.
TheScientist3 calls.

Turn (board: Ks 9c 6s 9h):
frankslinda goes all-in for 1360. TheScientist3 goes
all-in for 1400. maddcow2 folds. Queen Rose folds.
TheScientist3 is returned 40 (uncalled).

Tournament all-in showdown -- players show:
frankslinda shows 9d Jh.
TheScientist3 shows 9s 5s.

River (board: Ks 9c 6s 9h 7c):
(no action in this round)

Showdown:
frankslinda has 9d Jh Ks 9c 9h: three nines.
TheScientist3 has 9s Ks 9c 9h 7c: three nines.

Hand #55018540-6 Summary:
frankslinda wins 3120 with three nines.

[taipan168]

Raise the flop and call a push, a pair + flush draw is a very strong hand, and rarely less than 50% to win on the flop if you can see two more cards.

As played, insta call, if he has the last remaining 9 in the deck or KK/66 then it's just a cooler.

[JeffreyGB]

Raise the flop and call a push, a pair + flush draw is a very strong hand, and rarely less than 50% to win on the flop if you can see two more cards.

What ever happened to "don't take a flip early in an SNG"?

[TLR]

Raise the flop and call a push, a pair + flush draw is a very strong hand, and rarely less than 50% to win on the flop if you can see two more cards.

What ever happened to "don't take a flip early in an SNG"?

If hero pots the flop and gets a push there are 240 dead chips in the pot, which makes calling the push worthwhile. I am not thrilled about someone pushing but I am calling.
I think the imprtant point is to lead the flop, there are a lot of players in the pot, your hand loses a lot of its value if you do not improve on the turn and it is a strong hand on the flop.
As played calling the river is a must, you will run into worse hands often enough

[JeffreyGB]

Raise the flop and call a push, a pair + flush draw is a very strong hand, and rarely less than 50% to win on the flop if you can see two more cards.

What ever happened to "don't take a flip early in an SNG"?

If hero pots the flop and gets a push there are 240 dead chips in the pot, which makes calling the push worthwhile. I am not thrilled about someone pushing but I am calling.

I suppose I can accept that. I'm still not sold on 3200 chips being enough of an improvement over 3000 chips to justify busting half the time, but I don't think it's a big issue.

I think the important point is to lead the flop, there are a lot of players in the pot, your hand loses a lot of its value if you do not improve on the turn and it is a strong hand on the flop.

Maybe not as true in a $3, but if we have aggro opponents, wouldn't you see more value from a C/R? Here for instance, instead of there being 240 in dead money, there would be 400 in dead money. We also ensure we can be the one putting the last significant bet in this way (thus putting the pressure on our opp). Wouldn't it suck to bet 80 and have everyone just call?

[TLR]

]I think the important point is to lead the flop, there are a lot of players in the pot, your hand loses a lot of its value if you do not improve on the turn and it is a strong hand on the flop.

Maybe not as true in a $3, but if we have aggro opponents, wouldn't you see more value from a C/R? Here for instance, instead of there being 240 in dead money, there would be 400 in dead money. We also ensure we can be the one putting the last significant bet in this way (thus putting the pressure on our opp). Wouldn't it suck to bet 80 and have everyone just call?

When I read the hand initially my firsy thought was C/R, but there are a few factors that favor a bet to a C/R I think

1. One player has already checked
2. The pot was not raised preflop
3. The flop is not very likely to hit a lot of hands
4. It is a low buy in, with the dominant players loose-passive

So there is a decent chance the pot will just be checked around

[JeffreyGB]

Maybe not as true in a $3, but if we have aggro opponents, wouldn't you see more value from a C/R? ...

When I read the hand initially my firsy thought was C/R, but there are a few factors that favor a bet to a C/R I think

1. One player has already checked
2. The pot was not raised preflop
3. The flop is not very likely to hit a lot of hands
4. It is a low buy in, with the dominant players loose-passive

So there is a decent chance the pot will just be checked around

I don't disagree, save to think that #4 should be #1