Shove any two??

[Roco415]

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $5.00+$0.50 Tournament, 200/400 Blinds 25 Ante (5 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

MP (t3503)
Button (t5372)
Hero (SB) (t11597)
BB (t1899)
UTG (t4629)

Hero's M: 16.00

Preflop: Hero is SB with 2, 7
4 folds

Total pot: t525

[taipan168]

Yep, I would definitely shove ATC in this spot (and I hope you were open shoving a bunch of hands before this too with the big stack).

[Roco415]

yeh thats why i was hesitant...figured i had widened thier ranges too far

[TLR]

Depends on the calling range of the BB.

In a vacuum I would not shove 27o into the short stack in the BB when the blinds are 25% of his stack and his calling range is probably very wide

[lNormajean]

if you have been shuving and stealing alot then this is probably a bad idea with ATC although i would shuv alot here.. 27o is a bit of a strech tho.

mb like SCs, suited 1 gappers, Jx Qx Kx and Ax

any1 else thoughts on ranges for shuving here?

[surviva316]

any1 else thoughts on ranges for shuving here?

def any PP as well

[Qminator]

If it's you first steal in a while i wouldn't hesitate to shove ATC here. Otherwise i'd think twice about it.

[Jack Sawyer]

don't mess with the shortie. use him for fear factor instead.

[FlyingSaucy]

You shove any two for sure. I'm not 100% on this, but I think that shorty should also call any two.

[taipan168]

You shove any two for sure. I'm not 100% on this, but I think that shorty should also call any two.

I ran this in SNG Wiz and it's a good shove with 72o provided that opp calls with 52% or tighter, which I think is a reasonable assumption. I also ran it from opp's perspective, and even if he knows we are shoving ATC he should only call with 42%.

That said, if the other stacks are playing weak/tight because of the shorty and the bubble, folding to the shorty and pwning their asses with raises/shoves for the next 3 hands isn't a bad strategy either.

[GatorJH]

That said, if the other stacks are playing weak/tight because of the shorty and the bubble, folding to the shorty and pwning their asses with raises/shoves for the next 3 hands isn't a bad strategy either.

This is generally what I do. It takes a special situation for me to shove 72o and this isn't one of those.