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Originally Posted by OngBonga
For the 1000th time, I do not think the protests should be peaceful.
I think looters are scum.
Those are two very different opinions which for some reason you guys refuse to acknowledge.
What I said is only about you if you fit those "ifs."
I didn't mention looting.
I've acknowledged your opinions every time. No one here has defended looting.
Check your ego, ong. Check your personal motivations. This isn't about you.
Originally Posted by OngBonga
As for this guy, he's a dick. Doesn't matter if his cause is justified or not, he's an average sportsman who wanted to make himself important. One massive ego, look at me.
Bold is grade A bullshit.
Ego?
It took some balls to do what he did, and a strong enough sense of what he believed in to take that stand despite the repercussions to his career.
Originally Posted by OngBonga
What he did was deliberately divisive. Very deliberately. On the one hand, all the virtue signallers are all "omg this guy" while all the patriots are like "wtf dude this is the national anthem". I was well orchestrated politics designed to cause division.
So fuck that guy.
Of course it's deliberately divisive. What do you think protest means?
It means the social contract has been broken, and so he used that clause in the social contract that says when the system is broken, protest peacefully. And people made it political, and made it about Kaepernick, rather than Kaepernick's message.
The deliberate turning of attention away from the problem to the protestor is tacit acceptance and approval of the status quo he was protesting against.
The insinuation that he's not a patriot for performing his first amendment rights is another example of how the social contract doesn't apply to people of color.
Originally Posted by OngBonga
And I can easily throw this rhetoric right back at you.
Because even the pretend notion that I've attacked you is enough for you to retaliate / protest?
What if I'd really attacked you, ong?
What if I was part of a system that routinely attacked you and people who look like you without nuance and without apology?
Originally Posted by OngBonga
You're part of the problem for allowing people like Kaeperneck to sew division and be hailed a fucking hero for it. You're a part of the problem for accusing people thousands of miles away in another country of being a cause of the problem, just because I'm more cynical of the left and their motives. But I'm just using bullshit rhetoric too.
The problem is not someone saying "fuck the looters" and "fuck Kaeperneck", nor someone saying "fuck you for saying that". The problem is people are too easily manipulated by those in control, and we're both subject to that control.
Right. It was Kaepernick that sowed the division, not the decades of police brutality directed at people of color.
It's only you who decided to feel my words attacked you. My words were not directed at you unless you fit those "ifs."
And if you do fit those "ifs," calling my words an attack is your own ego again. People are being murdered and you're getting defensive over the fact that some words hurt your feelings.
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