Russians vs. Americans: A Werewolf Game for October 2015

[wufwugy]

if anyone, wuf you can see that going down?

im almost ready to shoot hifi

lol i like that you thought of me. shows you know me well

[JKDS]

Initial thoughts are Rilla is slightly off but I'm unsure if I actually feel that or it's because a few other people have mentioned it. He's certainly not driving the conversation which I'm used to but there could be a reason for that. Life obligations, the game starting on a weekend, or being a wolf/special all count.


Kami's whatevs I don't care go ahead and lynch me is slightly annoying. Doesn't really give me a lean either way. A wolf knows it's hard to defend yourself on a day 1 and feigning that you could care less if you die on D1 isn't a bad approach. Or could just be a villager. I will say that if the Kami wagon swings to someone else, we look at who made that happen. Could link a few wolves.

Im back to rereading. If kami flips wolf, bigred is obv wolf. He lost a lot of villa cred regardless tho

[Kami]

Just woke up and I'll shoot during the next thing
Beck help me decide

[Beck Novo]

v point for jewkaids

btw the OP says you 'may' poison, not 'must'

I did not know this. In this regard, ignore my theory about BID. I still don't think he's a wolf just yet.

But honestly, if it quells your suspicions, you could probably just shoot BID. He hasn't been overly helpful and in the off-chance that he's the wolves' backup, we want him dead. If he's the village's backup then he's as good as useless to us now that he's been blocked.

So actually, I've talked myself into BID being on the table. Drew, this is your time to prove yourself. Now or never.

[TheBrokenATM]

I also think OMG is a wolf.
Did seer flip yet?

[SuperMonkeyFace]

im typically very sparse on these. i have a history of hard defending wolves, and im not convinced that it's the best idea for the wolves to know who the villagers think are likely/most-valuable villagers

i do inevitably come around to it tho, just try to avoid it early on

I see beck was hammering wuf on the same questions. I have beck as a pretty good villa but this forceful questioning is off putting

[Kami]

I'd shoot batm

[wufwugy]

Wait, what? Is this a legitimate reason to not provide your opinion?

The wolves are wolves, they know who the villagers are and if they have half of a brain they can tell who the valuable villagers are. Why would you withhold this information out of fear of tipping off an already informed party?

Wuf, what the fuck.

im better at finding wolves than at finding villagers. im better when i target specific players for wolfy reason than when i categorize and claim villager status for others. my hard defense of wolves is a problem. plus i have tunneling issues. i dont like getting stressed from this game anymore so i have come to maintain a certain level of detachment from my ideas. it allows me to analyze better. plus im better at finding wolves than i am at finding villagers, so i do be

[SuperMonkeyFace]

crazy idea alert

hifi was the first person to shoot rilla and did it ASAP

FTR peeps know that rilla does not shine as a wolf like he does as a villager. his participation was lacking too

i can imagine in the den, rilla agreeing to take a bullet to give HIFI maximum cover. i do not think hifi should be included in the "100% village" camp like luco, ong, beck, me, etc

After seeing the ttt reveal I felt pretty bad about the 3 players I had suspicions on. Ttt, hifi, and Gabe

This post right here gives me good villager vibes on Gabe

I feel like I should give hifi the benefit of my incorrect reads doubt but Gabe brings up a somewhat decent tinfoil/point imo. I've said it before as a wolf to fellow wolves to lock clear a wolf. So I don't think it's out in left field of a thought. And like I said, a villagery thought

[SuperMonkeyFace]

Why doesnt this same logic apply to me?

I like this post.

The difference being a hit vs a miss at face value I guess. But really you guys should be in the same category

That category officially being "I don't wanna touch that right now" in my opinion now

[wufwugy]

beck is like a less "cigarette butt" rilla. assuming v rilla obv

[Luco]

QUOTE TUNNEL INCOMING

jkds & bid discussing rilla:

BID what you think of rilla? Im still rereading, but Im really liking both him and ong as wolves.

I had to go back to read his posts just now because I couldn't remember anything he posted.

He isn't impressing me this game but I don't know if it's role-indicative or if my standards of rilla are too high. I mean, almost all of his posts are short one sentence posts with not much in them. But nothing wolfy stands out. Whereas some posts are villagery.

So if I had to pick, I'd say villager. There's certainly more village posts than wolfy (0) ones.

@luco: maybe, i havent played with batm before, but wolfing involves lots of pressure and doing something like that (like if it succeeded) would create a lot of heat.

@BID: Im trying to figure out if he was super soul ready Rilla because hes just really good at reading baudib, you, and eevee (that shot coulda been random) or if he is just being lame now because hes wolf. Im up to 436 now, and hes not being how he was before and I'd feel like he'd feel invincible after 2 great villa games.

I think if rilla felt like an invincible wolf, he'd be more involved and lackadaisical.

Nah you misunderstand. I mean that if rilla rolled villa again, he'd be going for the hat trick and feel invincible. But if he rolled wolf, I think his confidence would change significantly.

Depends on wether or not he's vig again hahaha

Wolves: I'm clearly not a poisoner so don't nom me.

Drew wtf

Why does rilla need to roll vig to be a confident villa?

Because when he last rolled vig he pwnd the wolf team.

And in the last game he was vanilla and still pwned.

Again I ask you,

w
t
f
drew

I'm talking about the game when he rolled vig and pwnd! Jfc dude If I'm muddling up the order of previous games here at FTR then I'm muddling up the order of games.

Do not shoot or lynch jkds today

Do what you like with drew

[wufwugy]

Wuf, I know you're opposed to shooting at Aubrey.

Give me three names, in order, of players that we should shoot at next?

weeeeeeeeeeeeeelllllllllllllllllllllllllllll

i have no fucking clue

[Luco]

I like this post.

The difference being a hit vs a miss at face value I guess. But really you guys should be in the same category

That category officially being "I don't wanna touch that right now" in my opinion now

Yep.

Do not shoot or lynch hifi today

[SuperMonkeyFace]

Oh ya. A hearty lol @ Kami and siu getting poisoned lolol

If they are healed does it happen instantly or at eod?

I wonder if either get saved. But in this scenario. 1 at least is a villager because of the wolf poisoned action.

Is it worth it to even take a shot? Technically one could be a wolf. But being so hard to distinguish, does one get saved, and who?

[wufwugy]

we'll find our next shot by answering this question: who's slankin? rilla slanked like a ninja rappelling down a drug lord's mansion, dont be surprised if the other wolves are

[wufwugy]

yeah im shooting pnaw. dude slankin like a mother

[Beck Novo]

Just a heads up, I post my reads when I feel like it. And when I feel they're relevant.

I can't do this shit anymore.

[SuperMonkeyFace]

I can't do this shit anymore.

I play on my schedule

Not yours

Deal with it

[Beck Novo]

weeeeeeeeeeeeeelllllllllllllllllllllllllllll

i have no fucking clue

But you said you were better at hunting wolves.

[Beck Novo]

I play on my schedule

Not yours

Deal with it

Bruh. Bruh.

Do the village a God damn favor.

[wufwugy]

bid's lack of invovlement really is puzzling me. i assume it's because he's butthurt over peopel wanting to lynch him, but really it could be he knows he faked and that he will die and so his words may come back to haunt the wolves

[Beck Novo]

yeah im shooting pnaw. dude slankin like a mother

Yeah don't do this please. He's contributed more than you have.

[SuperMonkeyFace]

Beck Novo - Posts 150
Luco - Posts 140
OngBonga - Posts 117
BankItDrew - Posts 116
Top Tier Tom - Posts 105
lilrascal - Posts 72
HiFi - Posts 66
gabe - Posts 56
wufwugy - Posts 55
Kami - Posts 53
JKDS - Posts 45
NightGizmo - Posts 39
SuperMonkeyFace - Posts 37
MadMojoMonkey - Posts 33
a500lbgorilla - Posts 29
bigred - Posts 26
ProbablynotAWolff - Posts 23
ShipItUp - Posts 18
TheBrokenATM - Posts 18
BooG690 - Posts 7
aubreymcfate - Posts 4

[wufwugy]

But you said you were better at hunting wolves.

i didnt say i was good

im set on kami being a wolf but she's a no go due to poisoning. i think bid is a wolf but he's also a no go due to claim. i want to kill siu right now since he's slanking harder than anybody, but again a no go because poisoning.

for all i know i found three wolves yet cant kill any of them

[SuperMonkeyFace]

Bruh. Bruh.

Do the village a God damn favor.

I have x amount of previous reads n thoughts posted already

If I feel the need to update I will

Otherwise do the favor yourself and read for my reads if you're that concerned

[Luco]

The following are def wolves:

rilla
ong
beck

Why? Rilla in particular

[Luco]

I have x amount of previous reads n thoughts posted already

If I feel the need to update I will

Otherwise do the favor yourself and read for my reads if you're that concerned

cmon man dont be like dat

[wufwugy]

Yeah don't do this please. He's contributed more than you have.

it's not a game of who can type the most

[wufwugy]

i could be down with an ong shot

[SuperMonkeyFace]

cmon man dont be like dat

I've been posting about 3 or 4 players for the last hour

Do I really need to provide 3 villagers and 3 wolves the second someone demands them?

[Beck Novo]

it's not a game of who can type the most

No it's not. But bopo has provided reads in full and you haven't. It almost feels convenient that the players who can not/should not be shot this phase are the ones you want to shoot.

[Beck Novo]

We need to shoot Aubrey during ITAs.

[OngBonga]

im with ong in really wanting to find a way to kill bid.

i could be down with an ong shot

um, what changed between these posts wuf?

[baudib]

WHO WE LUNCHIN' LADIES?

bigred 1 (wufwug)
aubrey 1 (kami)

Not voting: Everyone else

[SuperMonkeyFace]

I'm trying to stay awake for this ita sesh but there's no guarantees

[baudib]

Mod note: If you haven't shot today, the period starting at 6 p.m. will be your last shot.

glgl

[Luco]

We need to shoot Aubrey during ITAs.

Yep

wow, a lot happened while i was otherwise occupied.

bid's claim makes it hard to assess wagons, so much hinges on whether it is fake or not..

BiD being special could explain that weird comment he made about his signature. it could be the reason he took the line about "smooth wolf" as a compliment.. felt he was being smooth as a special. Honestly that's a stretch, but you never know. Have to wait and see, I guess.

Rilla not posting much is weird.

JKDS voting off wagon for him is also weird. but JKDS defending me when I was an easy target for a wolf (my ambiguous posting left me open to deserved suspicion, a wolf would jump on that opportunity, or at the very least not rock the boat) makes him a likely villager to me.

weird opening for the day

i feel like you would of said something about me tbh since alot of people voted you based on me

kami - My first impulse was to comment on the bigger event, BiD's claim. To comment on the situation with you: I thought you were villager at first and based my analysis on that being true. As for my actual vote for you, it seemed like you didn't care about being in the game (which I don't think is the case now) and I'm always prepared to be surprised in WW and see someone I think is villager flip wolf. I felt like it was a decent lynch either way. It was a lazy day 1 placeholder vote, and I haven't played in about a year so.. yeah. lol, I dk what else to say about that. Then I had to deal with real life, so I never voted for someone someone who was more deserving.. and as shit got crazier, there were obviously better targets than you.

beck - sure, it might have to wait until tomorrow morning, it's late here and i have to get up early. will try for tonight though.

^^ "My first impulse was to comment on the bigger event, BiD's claim" - yet somehow rilla being 'weird' is also more noteworthy than the storm she brewed over kami

On phone/train (limited service)

I know I said I found jkds villagery bc I thought I'd be an easy target for wolves but pnaw's read is convincing. Honestly the q about mmm's name had zero to do with tactics --- TTT referred to himself in third person and it confused me. So yeah, I can see that as him reaching to justify something he knows is true (me being villager)

I have strongest villager reads on beck ong and lilrascal due to quality of wolf hunting

Boog and rilla seem weird to me, where are they?? And I'm skeptical of BiD but I feel like I've only seen him be a spazzy wolf so.. Idk. That post about the signature was very very suspect... if he really is special that cld be why that happened but that is a stretch (can't remember if I've said this already, hard to check, sorry)

Gonna post this now so it goes thru and try to post thoughts when I can after

when wolves mention other wolves they're usually in a villa sandwich post, mentioning boog in the same breath as rilla here is objectively bad for aubrey

[OngBonga]

There is def a wolf in:

hi5
kami
gabe

The following are def wolves:

rilla
ong
beck

wtf is this? Drew is just spewing out lists here in an attempt to confuse us when he flips.

I mean ffs he has rilla as definitely wolf. And beck. This is just nonsense.

[BankItDrew]

So actually, I've talked myself into BID being on the table. Drew, this is your time to prove yourself. Now or never.

I told you already, I'm the backup poisoner.

[Beck Novo]

D2 ITAs

HiFi shoots rilla - MISS
Luco shoots rilla - HIT
Ong shoots Aubrey - MISS
BID shoots Ong - MISS
bopo shoots Aubrey - MISS


So these players still have a shot at their disposal:

aubreymcfate
Beck Novo
Bigred
BooG690
Gabe
JKDS
Kami
lilrascal
MadMojoMonkey
ShipItUp
SuperMonkeyFace
TheBrokenATM
Wufwugy

This should be interesting.

[Beck Novo]

Ong you have my permission to shoot BID. Not that you were looking for my approval, but the more we work together the better off we'll be.

[Beck Novo]

I told you already, I'm the backup poisoner.

What's to say you're not a wolf? And if you're a part of the village then you're no use to us after N3 anyway, and what do you know, you've been roleblocked until then.

[OngBonga]

Ong you have my permission to shoot BID. Not that you were looking for my approval, but the more we work together the better off we'll be.

I took my shot, I missed aubrey.

[Beck Novo]

You're right, my mistake.

Right now, we should probably be shooting Aubrey, BID, then Wuf. But that's just me. Does anyone else have any burning desires?

[JKDS]

Im mulling over shooting bid or br right now.

[Luco]

Shooting in 15

Guys do NOT shoot drew

A potentially confirmable villa even with a spent pr is still a big deal

If hes faking he dies when ccd and not before

[Beck Novo]

@Kami, can you shoot at Aubrey for me?

[baudib]

You're right, my mistake.

Right now, we should probably be shooting Aubrey, BID, then Wuf. But that's just me. Does anyone else have any burning desires?

[OngBonga]

I'd sooner see BATM get shot than wuf, although I'd like him to explain why his tune has changed on me.

[Beck Novo]

Shooting in 15

Guys do NOT shoot drew

A potentially confirmable villa even with a spent pr is still a big deal

If hes faking he dies when ccd and not before

This is probably true. Alright. Drew is back off of the table.

Aubrey and Wuf need to go, though.

[JKDS]

Lucos point about aubery is good too. I can still see villa aubrey doing this, but I'm not convinced enough to keep defending her anymore.

[wufwugy]

We need to shoot Aubrey during ITAs.

that's it? that's your only pick?

i can say the same thing you just said to me, that this person is the last person you should want to shoot.

[Beck Novo]

Yeah, BATM isn't a bad shot either, but I want to trust HiFi's judgement.

But I also just don't know if I do.

[Beck Novo]

that's it? that's your only pick?

i can say the same thing you just said to me, that this person is the last person you should want to shoot.

Well, I want to shoot you, too.

But if I cannot shoot Aubrey or you, who should it be? You have yet to give me a plausible candidate.

[wufwugy]

um, what changed between these posts wuf?

i read teh thread

i dont much like shooting you but i dont much like any of the options. tbh i was planning on shooting rilla but you guys got here first. i would like to shoot bigred except he is now doing a villy thing and i think i was assuming he would keep doing the wolfy thing when i bolded him

[wufwugy]

im cool enough with an aubrey shot since she is so disengaged, for that reason alone

[wufwugy]

there is also a different tell i have that aubrey may have displayed that is a wolfy one

[Beck Novo]

i read teh thread
i would like to shoot bigred except he is now doing a villy thing and i think i was assuming he would keep doing the wolfy thing when i bolded him

You were reading him as a wolf at the start of the day, he has not posted since your read, and now he's doing "a villy thing"? What does this mean? Please walk me through this change in thoughts.

[Beck Novo]

there is also a different tell i have that aubrey may have displayed that is a wolfy one

Please point out this tell.

[Beck Novo]

I honestly just think Wuf is just saving face for when Aubrey flips wolf.

[baudib]

[wufwugy]

This is probably true. Alright. Drew is back off of the table.

Aubrey and Wuf need to go, though.

yes please shoot me. it will only confirm that ftrers are barely playing. each and every one of them knows that i cant be a wolf here

[BooG690]

I'm shooting BATM, FYI

[wufwugy]

Well, I want to shoot you, too.

But if I cannot shoot Aubrey or you, who should it be? You have yet to give me a plausible candidate.

i like batm too but i also laid off because hifi said so

[wufwugy]

basically the only person who can be described as slanking that i dont want to kill is boog. he's either on his v game or his "imma wolf but better at explaining v things to v's" game. which he is capable of tbh. i seent it! when we was wolves together. he has to be in a hairy ass situation to pull it out tho

[wufwugy]

well also sorta aubrey, but i HATE that im defending her. one of these days im going to be wrong.

plus it aligns with Wuf's Principles Of How To Always Win Werewolf 101 to kill her since she's so disengaged.

[Beck Novo]

I'm shooting BATM, FYI

Rock on.

[Luco]

Not a fan of a wuf shot.

[Beck Novo]

well also sorta aubrey, but i HATE that im defending her. one of these days im going to be wrong.

plus it aligns with Wuf's Principles Of How To Always Win Werewolf 101 to kill her since she's so disengaged.

So will you take the first shot?

[baudib]

you may open fire at 6:00

[Beck Novo]

Not a fan of a wuf shot.

HE MUST FIRST PROVE HIS ALLEGIANCE

[Beck Novo]

Who is shooting first?

[OngBonga]

Killing spree music...

[baudib]

ITAS ARE OPEN!