Russians vs. Americans: A Werewolf Game for October 2015

[Beck Novo]

So a little less than two hours remain until the first ITA session. Still looking for more reads from more players.

[ProbablynotAWolff]

@Tom/Beck: Idk why you guys are sheeping each other this game, maybe you've already soul read eachother. W/e. Aubrey's a villager though, and the reason is because of her post 416 where she asks MMM what his name is. Thats not fluff, and it shows genuine wolf hunting. She aint a wolf.

Gabe I freely admit to clearing pretty light. I got him as a villa lean cuz he seems like fun, spitballing gabe from posts like 134ish.

if someone can explain to me how asking someone their name is genuine wolfhunting, I would like that

Lynch Top Tier Tom

Whats not to understand about her attitude? You and Hifi called her terrible and a liability, what...you expected her to sing you praises? I feel like you're just buddying MMM here, and your "wouldnt be surprised regardless of flip" quote sounds a lot like a wolf prematurely apologizing.

This was JKDS first post, I hated it because he was voting and tried to push Tom who was the villagiest villager to have ever villaged in the history of the village.


There are alot of JKDS posts i didnt like and I don't understand the reasons for his reads or why Aubrey is so clear in his eyes. The biggest problems I have is him pusing TTT early who ended up being NK and how he so easily clears aubrey and points to something as obvious wolf hunting when it is not.

I kinda want to shoot him over aubrey and if he is a wolf I dont want to shoot aubrey anymore because it reads like he knows aubrey is a villa and he's trying to make something up to justify his read.

[baudib]

ITAs soon!

ITAs will begin at noon EST Thursday. The session will last 1 hour. There will be another at 6 p.m.

Rules:
1. You only get one shot. You can choose to shoot in the noon session or the 6 p.m. session. Players firing multiple shots will be punished.
2. To shoot, type in bold red with your target's name. You may use any flavor you'd like.

Example:
Shoot baudib!
Chop off baudib's head with a unicorn horn.

Are valid.

Shoot baudib!
baudib
not valid

Shots with incorrect formatting must be corrected.
If you make a mistake in formatting, you MUST shoot at the same player.
Shots will be processed in order. Shots that hit already dead targets are wasted, you do not get another shot.
All shots have a 15% chance of killing the target.
An unresolved shot from a player who is subsequently killed will still be processed.

If you are killed, please stop posting immediately.

[Luco]

[HiFi]

People I'm not going to shoot:

beck
wuf
pnaw
gabe
batman

[OngBonga]

Oh, still another hour? Fuck you timezones.

[Luco]

Can't wait to see ong's face when he realises this was all just a long con from me so I could shoot drew myself

mwa ha ha ha ha

[Beck Novo]

So bopo, let's start to finalize this list.

I'm game for
1) rilla
2) JKDS
3) Wuf

[OngBonga]

Why isn't aubrey on that list anymore?

[HiFi]

So bopo, let's start to finalize this list.

I'm game for
1) rilla
2) JKDS
3) Wuf

Don't shoot wuf please. Feel free to empty the clip into the other 2.

[Beck Novo]

Why isn't aubrey on that list anymore?

Aubrey can still be on the list. But bopo explained how if JKDS was a wolf he SPEW'd Aubrey village.

Why not Wuf, HiFi?

[HiFi]

I am going to fire at noon exactly

[ProbablynotAWolff]

im down for JKDS then reevaluate. If JKDS is a villa then i advocate for shots on aubrey

[ProbablynotAWolff]

i still need to reread rilla, will try to start that now

[Beck Novo]

Update to my DO NOT SHOOT list:

Beck
HiFi
MMM
bopo
rascal
gabe
Luco
Ong
BID

Anyone else can eat led as far as I'm concerned. With a preference for rilla.

[HiFi]

Aubrey can still be on the list. But bopo explained how if JKDS was a wolf he SPEW'd Aubrey village.

Why not Wuf, HiFi?

Because he is posting like someone who wants to stir up shit and doesn't care if he gets lynched. Wolves do this really rarely.

[Beck Novo]

I am going to fire at noon exactly

Who are you going to shoot?

[JKDS]

Im just waking up.

Beck, read the last game on here. It's short, and my play is so radically different that you'll see I'm not a wolf.

That said, neither is wuf or aubrey. These two people are incredibly easy to read, and I'm extremely confident they are villa.

Rilla is also easy to read, and is pretty much locked as a wolf. Ong is too, because he's not fighting g for the obvious villas. He knows aubreys playstyle, she should be obvious. Lots should to him, but he's not doing anything for them. Also, ong is probably the best wolf on the site.

[Beck Novo]

As far as an order goes, let's also be somewhat strategic because of we overlap we'll lose our shats. HiFi first, I'll go second.

[JKDS]

im down for JKDS then reevaluate. If JKDS is a villa then i advocate for shots on aubrey

Then you'd be a wolf. Ignoring my read when i flip villa is retarded. I have years of meta on this site, and youd be ignoring all of that.

Here's something that's been bothering me. Why did you create a second account after being subbed in?

[Beck Novo]

Im just waking up.

Beck, read the last game on here. It's short, and my play is so radically different that you'll see I'm not a wolf.

That said, neither is wuf or aubrey. These two people are incredibly easy to read, and I'm extremely confident they are villa.

Rilla is also easy to read, and is pretty much locked as a wolf. Ong is too, because he's not fighting g for the obvious villas. He knows aubreys playstyle, she should be obvious. Lots should to him, but he's not doing anything for them. Also, ong is probably the best wolf on the site.

I'm not going to read the last game before now and ITAs. You've done nothing yet to convince me in full that you should not be shot today. Are Aubrey and Wuf really your top villagers?

[aubreymcfate]

On phone/train (limited service)

I know I said I found jkds villagery bc I thought I'd be an easy target for wolves but pnaw's read is convincing. Honestly the q about mmm's name had zero to do with tactics --- TTT referred to himself in third person and it confused me. So yeah, I can see that as him reaching to justify something he knows is true (me being villager)

I have strongest villager reads on beck ong and lilrascal due to quality of wolf hunting

Boog and rilla seem weird to me, where are they?? And I'm skeptical of BiD but I feel like I've only seen him be a spazzy wolf so.. Idk. That post about the signature was very very suspect... if he really is special that cld be why that happened but that is a stretch (can't remember if I've said this already, hard to check, sorry)

Gonna post this now so it goes thru and try to post thoughts when I can after

[JKDS]

Why not? Just iso my posts in particular then. Don't close your ears going lalala just because.

I have lots of villas btw. But the most important ones are wuf and aubrey, because they are apparently at risk of death. They arnt wolves, move on

[OngBonga]

Im just waking up.

Beck, read the last game on here. It's short, and my play is so radically different that you'll see I'm not a wolf.

That said, neither is wuf or aubrey. These two people are incredibly easy to read, and I'm extremely confident they are villa.

Rilla is also easy to read, and is pretty much locked as a wolf. Ong is too, because he's not fighting g for the obvious villas. He knows aubreys playstyle, she should be obvious. Lots should to him, but he's not doing anything for them. Also, ong is probably the best wolf on the site.

This is bull. I'm not the best wolf on this site, I'm not in gabe and gator's league, nor am I as good as your usual standard (let's forget last game happened).

In fact it's wolfy that JKDS here is trying to use the last game in his defence here. That game is so radically different from JKDS' standard that it cannot be used as a fair comparison. JKDS as wolf can fool the entire village into thinking he's a villager. He's done it before, he can do it again.

[JKDS]

This is bull. I'm not the best wolf on this site, I'm not in gabe and gator's league, nor am I as good as your usual standard (let's forget last game happened).

In fact it's wolfy that JKDS here is trying to use the last game in his defence here. That game is so radically different from JKDS' standard that it cannot be used as a fair comparison. JKDS as wolf can fool the entire village into thinking he's a villager. He's done it before, he can do it again.

If you're really not a wolf, then stop letting things get personal. You know how high an opinion I have of you, and you know you're one of the best, if not the best, at mimicking your villager game. I dont think ive wolfed in 2 years, and I clearly dont remember how given how terrible last game was. You cant really think I threw the game just to say this later. You know thats not me either. I was a great SK a few games back, but thats so much easier to show wolf hunting since you dont know the wolves in that role either.

[Beck Novo]

Why not? Just iso my posts in particular then. Don't close your ears going lalala just because.

I have lots of villas btw. But the most important ones are wuf and aubrey, because they are apparently at risk of death. They arnt wolves, move on

That's my point. Don't tell me to look at your posts when I've already said that they haven't convinced me.

If not Aubrey and Wuf, then who? Give me your top three shots in order.

[OngBonga]

I forgot your SK game, I don't consider that as a "wolf" game because you're right, wolfhunting is legit.

But last game is a million miles from the standard you set as wolf last time you were proper wolf. It may have been years ago, but the fact I still remember it shows how strong your performance was. Last game was a rare poor performance from you, and if you're wolf here, I'd expect a marked improvement.

[JKDS]

Don't tell me to look at your posts when I've already said that they haven't convinced me.
.

Im telling you to stop being a lazy piece of shit and get information that will help you to determine my alignment. As far as "not convincing you", you havent read them, so of course you're not convinced. Itll take 5 minutes max, I dont know why you're so adamant against this.

Best shots right now are Rilla then Ong. Anyone else shouldnt be shot until the second ITA when we have a chance to go through both of their posts with perfect information.

[OngBonga]

I think that post of aubrey's is the first time she's mentioned me, and she puts me in her village camp. An attempt to buddy me before ITA's? I think so.

[JKDS]

Ong, why aubrey. You know shes an aloof person and that making that kami mistake thing is well within her villa range, and you know wuf is fantastic at reading her. I dont know why this hasnt been brought up by you and why im the first one confirming this to be the case.

[OngBonga]

Im telling you to stop being a lazy piece of shit and get information that will help you to determine my alignment. As far as "not convincing you", you havent read them, so of course you're not convinced. Itll take 5 minutes max, I dont know why you're so adamant against this.

Best shots right now are Rilla then Ong. Anyone else shouldnt be shot until the second ITA when we have a chance to go through both of their posts with perfect information.

I am not the best shot, and I find it hard to believe you really think this.

rilla, fine, he's doing nothing. But hitting me in ITA is stupid, because if drew ends up being proven wrong, then you've shot someone who would've got nommed.

If people think the drew situation should play out naturally, then so should I be allowed the same.

[baudib]

I wanna kill some villagers. Who's with me? I know who they are.

[Beck Novo]

Im telling you to stop being a lazy piece of shit and get information that will help you to determine my alignment. As far as "not convincing you", you havent read them, so of course you're not convinced. Itll take 5 minutes max, I dont know why you're so adamant against this.

Best shots right now are Rilla then Ong. Anyone else shouldnt be shot until the second ITA when we have a chance to go through both of their posts with perfect information.

Woah now.

I'm talking about your posts this game. I don't care about your last game because like Ong said its a small sample size.

[OngBonga]

Ong, why aubrey. You know shes an aloof person and that making that kami mistake thing is well within her villa range, and you know wuf is fantastic at reading her. I dont know why this hasnt been brought up by you and why im the first one confirming this to be the case.

I find it hard to let go of what I perceive to be wolf pov slips.

I read aubrey's first post and I see someone who is making strong assumptions about kami being a villager.

I see her second post trying to brush that slip off.

Her third post is a vote for kami, who was her hard town read.

You think she's a villager because she asked if mojo is called tom.

JKDS, you're a better villager than this.

[Beck Novo]

Rilla then who, JKDS? Give me a second name.

I agree that two deaths during the first phase is best so we can reevaluate for the second phase.

[Beck Novo]

@HiFi

Please do not shoot until you've announced it publicly first.

[JKDS]

I find it hard to let go of what I perceive to be wolf pov slips.

I read aubrey's first post and I see someone who is making strong assumptions about kami being a villager.

I see her second post trying to brush that slip off.

Her third post is a vote for kami, who was her hard town read.

You think she's a villager because she asked if mojo is called tom.

JKDS, you're a better villager than this.

She said the tom thing is crap, but my gut on her is still intact. She doesnt sound like shes wolfin

[OngBonga]

JKDS why do you suppose the wolves poisoned kami or ship? Do either of them make any sense to you?

[BooG690]

Day One Final VC

NightGizmo 8 (ShipItUp, Kami, Luco, BigRed, Rascal, Hifi, ProbablyNotAWolff, Beck)
ShipItUp 5 (gabe, Nightgizmo, Rilla, Wufwugy, SuperMonkeyFace)
Kami 3 (TheBrokenATM, aubreymcfate, Bankitdrew)
Aubreymcfate 2 (TopTierTom, OngBonga)
Rilla 1 (JKDS)
BankItDrew 1 (Boog)

Not Voting: MadMojoMonkey

Just putting this out there, will adjust as I need to. My key issue, though, is that other than BigRed, I at the very least have a light village lean on every player on Gizmo's wagon, some even I believe are definitely villagers. But how can that be so?

You're wrong. SIU is a wolf here with all EOD switches going to Gizmo. I can't imagine any sane villager choosing to lynch Gizmo over SIU due to content alone.

If I had to pick between the two people i'd lynch gizmo over SIU for raisins i'll go into tomorrow

Go on...

Update to my DO NOT SHOOT list:

Beck
HiFi
MMM
bopo
rascal
gabe
Luco
Ong
BID

Anyone else can eat led as far as I'm concerned. With a preference for rilla.

Why is HiFi on the do not shoot list? I see nothing from him that makes me lean either way. I agree with this list other than that.

Everything said, I like Beck and gabe as core villagers though I've been tricked by gabe badly about three games ago. I'm a lot more scared of trusting him this game due to that.

OngBonga is playing his classic tunneling game. As was said, if BID fake outed, it will resolve itself. Taking a shot at him is just awful.

[JKDS]

JKDS why do you suppose the wolves poisoned kami or ship? Do either of them make any sense to you?

They didnt poison kami, it doesnt make sense given how so many people voted for her. You can argue ship is in the same boat, but its not really the same. Kami's been a lynch candidate for almost all of day 1. So wolves probably targeted ship. The only reason I can think of for that is that they thought he was the seer.

[ProbablynotAWolff]

I skimmed, but dont have time to really do much for the next few hours.

Wuf's pop in seems like his villa game.

I dont like the aubrey lynch, but dont really feel anything for the others. I'd be least surprised if gizmo was a wolf, but I dotn got a case on him or anything.

I wanna do this

lynch rilla

@Tom/Beck: Idk why you guys are sheeping each other this game, maybe you've already soul read eachother. W/e. Aubrey's a villager though, and the reason is because of her post 416 where she asks MMM what his name is. Thats not fluff, and it shows genuine wolf hunting. She aint a wolf.

Gabe I freely admit to clearing pretty light. I got him as a villa lean cuz he seems like fun, spitballing gabe from posts like 134ish.

Add Rascal, Boog, and BR to the villa list. Aubrey is near confirmed villa.

Lynch Top Tier Tom

Whats not to understand about her attitude? You and Hifi called her terrible and a liability, what...you expected her to sing you praises? I feel like you're just buddying MMM here, and your "wouldnt be surprised regardless of flip" quote sounds a lot like a wolf prematurely apologizing.

Then you'd be a wolf. Ignoring my read when i flip villa is retarded. I have years of meta on this site, and youd be ignoring all of that.

Here's something that's been bothering me. Why did you create a second account after being subbed in?

Post restrictions is why i created the 2nd account. baudib told me when he was lookign for subs to post in the main thread to get past the restrictions and I thought I did it the night before but it turns out it was the same day. So i had to make another account to post.

You say that it bothers you like it means something about my alignment but it means nothing no matter what I am. You trying to push me because of that is wolfy.

[ProbablynotAWolff]

also those are posts that i found weird WRT jkds

[Luco]

[Beck Novo]

@Boog

Fair enough. But...

If SIU is a wolf then that implies that he was poisoned by the Village's Poisoner. Which would then imply that Kami was poisoned by the Wolves' Poisoner. Do you believe, then, that the Wolves poisoned Kami? Because I don't.

It's also incredibly likely that both wagons were v/v and the wolves hedged between the two because it didn't actually matter who was lynched.

[Luco]

Why does hifi get to go first?

[Beck Novo]

HiFi is on my list because she was my first village lean and I haven't seen any reason yet to change my mind.

[Luco]

No, why does she get to shoot first?

[Beck Novo]

No, why does she get to shoot first?

The post above was in response to Boog.

And she should not if she chooses not to share who she's going to shoot. But like all ITA sessions this will probably turn to shit no matter how organized we try to be.

[ProbablynotAWolff]

havent gotten to read rilla yet so i cant support shots on him

busy morning for me.

JKDS i wholeheartedly support. People who have meta with him, can you tell me does he usually make reads based on people being fun and give wolfhunting credit to people asking other's their name or is this role neutral?

[OngBonga]

They didnt poison kami, it doesnt make sense given how so many people voted for her. You can argue ship is in the same boat, but its not really the same. Kami's been a lynch candidate for almost all of day 1. So wolves probably targeted ship. The only reason I can think of for that is that they thought he was the seer.

It's possible they think ship is the seer. But if they think that, why didn't they try to divert the wagon on to him last night? Or use their rolepeek to see if he's worth hitting?

I can think of a reason why they might poison kami, but it assumes aubrey is a wolf.

[Beck Novo]

turn into a shit show*

Just watch. Also, if I'm shot at please lynch that player.

[Luco]

turn into a shit show*

Just watch. Also, if I'm shot at please lynch that player.

Hey beck.... THINKFAST PEW PEW PEW

[Beck Novo]

Hey beck.... THINKFAST PEW PEW PEW

:P

[Luco]

This ITA will be 58 minutes longer than I need it to be

[HiFi]

@HiFi

Please do not shoot until you've announced it publicly first.

I am shooting rilla

[ProbablynotAWolff]

NG wolf n0

this is why I wanted NG over ship

I didnt want to lynch someone who could be the seer, and if it turned out his peek was incorrect i was going to rally hard to lynch him today.

He got poisoned so this is a problem that solves itself, but if he was poisoned by the wolves it wasnt for this peek.

He also said he peeked kami earlier but that is completely role neutral for SiU.

I didn't point this out explicitly yesterday because im not helping wolves seer hunt

[Luco]

I am shooting rilla

Aww...

Fine but I'm next if he lives

[OngBonga]

lol ship posted a n0 wolf peek? It was a random villager peek.

No chance do wolves think ship is seer if he posted that.

[JKDS]

havent gotten to read rilla yet so i cant support shots on him

busy morning for me.

JKDS i wholeheartedly support. People who have meta with him, can you tell me does he usually make reads based on people being fun and give wolfhunting credit to people asking other's their name or is this role neutral?

You misunderstand. Gabe being "fun" is indicative of his villager game. Its a meta read, not a general read applicable to all. Its one of the few things that distinguishes his wolf/villa game. And yea, the name thing looks like wolf hunting. Idk why thats been so obscure. The post tom made was weird, and aubrey wanted to know why. Its genuine thought.

[HiFi]

​take rilla out to a fancy steakhouse and stick him with the bill

[baudib]

ITAS ARE NOW OPEN

[baudib]

​take rilla out to a fancy steakhouse and stick him with the bill

Spoiler: Show

no one has died

[Luco]

IMMA CHARGIN MAH LAZER ON A500LBGORILLA! SHOOP DA WOOP!

[HiFi]

God dammit

[baudib]

IMMA CHARGIN MAH LAZER ON A500LBGORILLA! SHOOP DA WOOP!

hit reveal incoming

[JKDS]

It's possible they think ship is the seer. But if they think that, why didn't they try to divert the wagon on to him last night? Or use their rolepeek to see if he's worth hitting?

I can think of a reason why they might poison kami, but it assumes aubrey is a wolf.

Dunno. I have no idea why'd they go after either kami or ship given their lynchability and their non-helpfulness. The only other thing is they could be worried about poisoning someone that is obv villa, thus confirming them. Like, if they poisoned tom instaed it'd be obvious who did it.

[Beck Novo]

LUCO GOAT

[baudib]

a500lbgorilla has been killed

Spoiler: Show

You are Vladimir Putin, the President/Dictator Strongman of Russia.
You are the Wolf Polonium Poisoner.

[HiFi]

OH SHIT

[ProbablynotAWolff]

I skimmed, but dont have time to really do much for the next few hours.

Wuf's pop in seems like his villa game.

I dont like the aubrey lynch, but dont really feel anything for the others. I'd be least surprised if gizmo was a wolf, but I dotn got a case on him or anything.

I wanna do this

lynch rilla

@Tom/Beck: Idk why you guys are sheeping each other this game, maybe you've already soul read eachother. W/e. Aubrey's a villager though, and the reason is because of her post 416 where she asks MMM what his name is. Thats not fluff, and it shows genuine wolf hunting. She aint a wolf.

Gabe I freely admit to clearing pretty light. I got him as a villa lean cuz he seems like fun, spitballing gabe from posts like 134ish.

Add Rascal, Boog, and BR to the villa list. Aubrey is near confirmed villa.

Lynch Top Tier Tom

Whats not to understand about her attitude? You and Hifi called her terrible and a liability, what...you expected her to sing you praises? I feel like you're just buddying MMM here, and your "wouldnt be surprised regardless of flip" quote sounds a lot like a wolf prematurely apologizing.

lol ship posted a n0 wolf peek? It was a random villager peek.

No chance do wolves think ship is seer if he posted that.

Interesting.

where i usually play you choose the n0 peek or if it is random's it can be a wolfpeek

[Beck Novo]

LUCO LACK CLAIRE

Who's next? I'll shoot.

[JKDS]

Oh shit haha

[HiFi]

Hope I get some credit even though my SHAT failed

[OngBonga]

haha oh rilla

[ProbablynotAWolff]

WHY DOES IT KEEP ALL MY QUOTES

DAMN IT