Sep 2015 Werewolf - Game thread

[OngBonga]

Alright, I'll actually spell out the subtext this time. Occam's razor once again - buadib is a villager reading the village wrong way more often than a wolf trying to get a result here.

I can accept this. I already know I can't read baudib for shit, but that won't stop me highlighting what I feel is wolfy from him.

But rascal, he's the issue, not baudib.

[OngBonga]

I don't understand why I'm the only one who a) thinks he's obviously a wolf, and b) thinks he's the optimal lynch regardless.

[baudib]

Can you guys do everyone a favor and just ignore any Ong posts about me? I can't believe he is still going on.

[OngBonga]

baudib shut the fuck up. If you want to be a child and ignore me, whatever. But I'm not going to ignore you. You are an unknown quantity from my pov and just because you're a fucking idiot, doesn't mean I'm not going to try and figure you out.

Now, please continue to ignore me, or engage me positively, or carry on being a twat. Choice is yours.

[baudib]

He's on antispew now. He's been on antispew the entire game.

the problem is you could arguably say this about 4-5 people right now.

and Kami probably isn't one of them.

[baudib]

And while she's here. Kami still occupies a shrinking pool of great day 1 targets. Game's getting easy.

Isoing rilla's posts to see if he's cleared himself yet. Not really, but I do like this idea.

lynch Kami

Rilla, step back from this, don't look at it as if you're gaining an ally on a wagon you're pushing and pretend this is Hoopy talking about someone other than you.

[baudib]

Cory, I feel like the current gamestate is some unholy marriage of Murphy's Law and Soah's Law.

[baudib]

I think the best way to explain Kami is this:

If you were to take pre-rand Kami and clone her 14 times, the villager Kamis would lynch wolves D1 and D2 by sorting by post count and killing the slankers.

The version of Kami who is in this game would get nommed N2 for leaving a wrong wolf peek.

After a couple of days of insults, WIFOM and mislynches, the village would finally prevail by lynching the Kami who pushed hardest on the wolves D1 and D2.

[JKDS]

Sorry for fucking off and ignoring the game. Catching up soon

[Cory]

home

[Cory]

Evene

[BankItDrew]

Evene

Why?

[a500lbgorilla]

Rilla, step back from this, don't look at it as if you're gaining an ally on a wagon you're pushing and pretend this is Hoopy talking about someone other than you.

I don't think about wagons this way. I don't even consider myself pushing for Kami.

But yes, Hoopy has been sliding by, though I've seen it from him before. If rascal does turn out to be a wolf, I would be the wolves would treat the situation with a 'wait and see, stand off to the side' attitude.

I think the best way to explain Kami is this:

If you were to take pre-rand Kami and clone her 14 times, the villager Kamis would lynch wolves D1 and D2 by sorting by post count and killing the slankers.

The version of Kami who is in this game would get nommed N2 for leaving a wrong wolf peek.

After a couple of days of insults, WIFOM and mislynches, the village would finally prevail by lynching the Kami who pushed hardest on the wolves D1 and D2.

That's great. But I can't take your experience as my read, I can only use my experience which is limited to this game and only a few days. But in those few days, I've got a good enough bead on SIU and Cory and I'm not interested in lynching them.

If I'm wrong, great, I'll learn something for the next time I run into Kami.

PS I'm game for Evene as well.

[BankItDrew]

I was kinda hoping Evene would post pics. Maybe go on a date with me.

[baudib]

ShipItUp

testing

[a500lbgorilla]

Sorry for fucking off and ignoring the game. Catching up soon

You and like 3 others, don't sweat it.

[baudib]

I was kinda hoping Evene would post pics. Maybe go on a date with me.

sexist ban

[BankItDrew]

No such thing.

[baudib]

You and like 3 others, don't sweat it.

there's a lot I could read into this seemingly innocuous post but I'll refrain FOR NOW

[a500lbgorilla]

Alright, quick Kami test. I would say that Kami is to me what BID is to the new guys. I recall Cory and SIU wanting to lynch BID because of his playstyle, while I had no interest in lynching him for much the same reason.

So Kami could show herself as being in the same mindset as Cory and SIU if she attacked BID at all and a quick glance through her posts says that's not the case.

[BankItDrew]

Cory is making me answer my own questions somehow.

I can think of two reasons why Evene would be a good D1 target...

One would be inactivity. I've been sold on the D1 kill inactives idea ever since it happened to me on the 4th try. A couple of other reasons:

I might be clearing him too light then.


Thought this was a wolfy post, but the follow-up was excellent.

This is a rather flimsy post.

"Maaaayyyybee? might be wolf but miiiiight be not?"

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Evene made 6 posts and that's all she wrote.

[baudib]

Cory is making me answer my own questions somehow.

I can think of two reasons why Evene would be a good D1 target...

One would be inactivity. I've been sold on the D1 kill inactives idea ever since it happened to me on the 4th try. A couple of other reasons:

This is a rather flimsy post.

"Maaaayyyybee? might be wolf but miiiiight be not?"

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Evene made 6 posts and that's all she wrote.

i think giving you the ability to ISO was a bad thing.

98% of the posts in this game are flimsy.

you could just be making shit up here too.

[BankItDrew]

I can't even build a case against Evene other than what I've already presented.

[baudib]

I think Evene is a villager, but confidence is low.

[baudib]

Like, I can't see how I would lynch Evene over JKDS when they're essentially the same at this point, except Evene has superior content, pending possibly incoming #hottakes from JKDS.

[BankItDrew]

i think giving you the ability to ISO was a bad thing.

98% of the posts in this game are flimsy.

you could just be making shit up here too.

Yes, I could be making shit up.

When a new challenge arises, such as investigating Evene, I'll take up the challenge.

[baudib]

I don't think about wagons this way. I don't even consider myself pushing for Kami.

But yes, Hoopy has been sliding by, though I've seen it from him before. If rascal does turn out to be a wolf, I would be the wolves would treat the situation with a 'wait and see, stand off to the side' attitude.

The point is not that Hoopy is sliding by but what he did there is objectively very wolfy.

It's not that villagers NEVER find themselves in that spot but it's a very weird progression to make.

And super easy for a wolf to do as they're trying to find an excuse for making a vote.

[a500lbgorilla]

You wouldn't say that if you agreed with his read.

[baudib]

You wouldn't say that if you agreed with his read.

Wrong. His read is 100% correct insofar as you could call it a "read."

Her posts are mainly fluff and one-liners is inarguably true. She's also a villager.

[BankItDrew]

Her posts are mainly fluff and one-liners is inarguably true. She's also a villager.

The part in red is a better argument for her being a wolf than the part in green is at being a villager. Wouldn't you agree?

[baudib]

The part in red is a better argument for her being a wolf than the part in green is at being a villager. Wouldn't you agree?

Kami doesn't post fluff as a wolf.

Also consider the source. How many of Hoopy's games have him posting fluff and one-liners for 8 straight days?

Like I said, most posts are fluff and one-liners in every game.

[baudib]

Like I don't even think it's true that her posts are fluff. Most of her posts are actually talking about people's alignments, which is the opposite of fluff.

lynch hoopy

I don't even think this would be a high-information lynch but the lack of interest in this wagon is pinging me hard.

[SuperMonkeyFace]

Kami doesn't post fluff as a wolf.

Also consider the source. How many of Hoopy's games have him posting fluff and one-liners for 8 straight days?

Like I said, most posts are fluff and one-liners in every game.

Baudibs recklessly town-y style in this game is giving me ebola

[baudib]

csb

[GatorJH]

Does Evene ever do the disinterested villager as a wolf?

[Cory]

Like, I can't see how I would lynch Evene over JKDS when they're essentially the same at this point, except Evene has superior content, pending possibly incoming #hottakes from JKDS.

I like JKDS' content more

Posting a bunch of soft stool in catchup mode and ducking anything real time is never "villagery"

She's at best rand, I have no idea why you have her as a villager

[baudib]

Does Evene ever do the disinterested villager as a wolf?

I would say she plays kinda like you.

that said it's hard to say, the times I've seen her wolf were in very very large games. The game I railed recently where she was a villager she was very active starting EOD1.

[baudib]

I like JKDS' content more

Posting a bunch of soft stool in catchup mode and ducking anything real time is never "villagery"

She's at best rand, I have no idea why you have her as a villager

I don't see how. His whole thing with SMF is kinda AIDS.

[Cory]

I thought #159 and #300 were more likely to come from a villager than a wolf

Keep in mind I don't remember what these say, but my notepad says so and notepad is god

[Cory]

I don't see how. His whole thing with SMF is kinda AIDS.

I'm not trying to lunch AIDS, I'm trying to lunch wolves ffs

[baudib]

#159

I don't see the cases on baudib, gator, ong, or wuf having any credibility right now.

I like the monkey lynch. He clamed up immediately the second he got accused.

^ This is an OK post but -- here's a bit of insight -- this is exactly the type of post I used to make as a wolf to get villa cred.

#300

kami and cory both seem too in your face to be wolves. ship and eve, those two noobs might need a closer look at.

Im leaning this way too.

eh

[Cory]

I think the speed of JKDS' response there means more than the content, ie there's no deliberation if this is the line to take there as a wolf or not (when at this point I am basically trolling and Kami is pretty much doing the same thing)

But what do I know right

[Cory]

^ This is an OK post but -- here's a bit of insight -- this is exactly the type of post I used to make as a wolf to get villa cred.

I don't care what you used to do as a wolf

I don't think that post "gains villa cred"

Over the last three pages I am questioning more and more if you actually know what you are doing

[baudib]

Cory, I'm not even trying to fight with you prickface jerk.

This is actually a reasonably high level of engagement for JKDS on D1.

[Cory]

no fite me

[Cory]

This is actually a reasonably high level of engagement for JKDS on D1.

So is he a wolf or is he a villager

[baudib]

So is he a wolf or is he a villager

IDK

I know it's lame but I think Evene and JKDS are both people who are a lot easier to figure out on D2.

[OngBonga]

IDK

I know it's lame but I think Evene and JKDS are both people who are a lot easier to figure out on D2.

Much like rilla.

[baudib]

Wolfy popins with promises to catch up that fail to deliver are also never villagery

just clicking buttons here.

[wufwugy]

wtf i come back to 13 fucking pages. an entire game should last 10 pages.

this one's up to you guys.

[OngBonga]

wuf talk to me, baudib is ignoring me.

[OngBonga]

We have a seer claim wuf. Talk about that.

[wufwugy]

must be fun. call in a week when ive finally gotten through this thread.

[OngBonga]

If you wanna grunch, just read from the beginning of page 11.

[OngBonga]

Most of it is fluff and can be scanned.

[JKDS]

I dont understand why we're even talking about Rascal. We let him live for forever, then he becomes either obv wolf, a seer with a bunch of look ups, or night killed.

[Cory]

Learn to skim and pick out the important things ffs

[baudib]

must be fun. call in a week when ive finally gotten through this thread.

the tragic part is this might be the perfect game for us to play 'werewugy'

[JKDS]

unvote

[baudib]

I dont understand why we're even talking about Rascal. We let him live for forever, then he becomes either obv wolf, a seer with a bunch of look ups, or night killed.

yeah Rascal shouldn't even be a topic of conversation tbh

[OngBonga]

I dont understand why we're even talking about Rascal. We let him live for forever, then he becomes either obv wolf, a seer with a bunch of look ups, or night killed.

roleblocker

[ShipItUp]

Hoopy

[OngBonga]

JKDS, ask yourself this... if you're seer, and you know wolves have a roleblocker, are you claiming on d1?

[wufwugy]

Learn to skim and pick out the important things ffs

id be lost if i tried to do this. i tend to read each post at least a handful of times and construct a somewhat deep analysis of the player or flow, whether right or wrong.

the tragic part is this might be the perfect game for us to play 'werewugy'

what's werewugy again?

[baudib]

id be lost if i tried to do this. i tend to read each post at least a handful of times and construct a somewhat deep analysis of the player or flow, whether right or wrong.



what's werewugy again?

how the village would play the game in your ideal universe

[JKDS]

Wuf's fuck it attitude is more villa-wuf than wolf-wuf. He agonized about how bad he was letting his wolf team down last time he was a wolf; so he'd probably not just be invisible all game.

@Ong: Its better than dying. Idk how many votes rascal had though, and his claim seems very similar to the loki game one where he was tellin the truth.

[baudib]

god what was Rascal's role in Vikings? I was the mod and don't even remember.

BID and Monstr were Odin and Thor.

[JKDS]

roleblocker

You're right. The 4th option is we have a seer with no look ups and no counter claim so we get an obv villager.

[JKDS]

god what was Rascal's role in Vikings? I was the mod and don't even remember.

BID and Monstr were Odin and Thor.

Wait, bid was seer wasnt he? Rascal was something, claimed, then got lynched anyway because gabe and I wanted him dead and were badies.

[JKDS]

ANGEL! AH HA

[wufwugy]

how the village would play the game in your ideal universe

only behaving rationally?

[Cory]

Hoopy

[baudib]

only behaving rationally?

you know, where we talk about how D1 doesn't matter, don't worry about figuring out alignments and instead just lynch the people who will be a liability later in the game.

[Kami]

So your case is that I'm cute and that I've done nothing wolfy?
Well I can't lie I am the cutest here tbh!


Well I'm convinced it's totally the best case for you to lynch me based on me doing nothing wolfy versus voting for someone you have meta on and is being wolfy lynch Kami

[baudib]

Wuf: Hint, if you were totally engrossed in this game as a villager you would by lynching Kami.