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[OngBonga]

quote or it didn't happen

And this isn't getting left. Quotes please.

[Luco]

Luco, if the wolves wanted a wolf in the dead thread, its reasonable that Ong would be pushing baudib. You were right in that rilla didnt vote dhuber day 1, but he voted baudib day1. So theres already evidence of one wolf going after another, i wouldnt be surprised if there were two.

Last game, there was this whole thing about how two ppl going at it are never w-w too...and then it was w-w. A FPS may have encouraged it here in addition to the other incentives.

When I find my thinking in others I give them a village lean for it and ong has been right beside me in his thinking throughout this whole entire game. That reads list he posted n1 was spot on to my own and I'm absolutely certain I hadn't given away all my thoughts at that point. I agree with him waaaay too much this game for him to be a wolf, irrespective of the MASSIVE vill lean you have to give him for his interactions with baud and rilla.

As for seeing my own thinking in others, you may have a question and the answer is no, I have not seen any of my own thinking in you. The way you approached the game via keith's theory came off as completely arse about face tbh

[JKDS]

You're right, i remembered wrong.

[JKDS]

Of course it helps. My villager reads are mmm, doobs, hoops, keyb, luco... based on them not being one of jkds drew and gabe.

There's still 6 hours left, I'll start looking individually at this group before deadline. At the moment I'm playing poker.

Now your turn - who are the wolves assuming I'm a villager?

So, you dont have villager reads then. Not being on your list doesnt make them villagers, you need reason to not be considering them. Idk why playing poker would stop you from just posting your conscience thoughts about each player

[OngBonga]

You're right, i remembered wrong.

Yeah add keybored to the lynch pool after a JKDS wolf flip. JKDS might have legitimately forgot what keith said, but he might also know that keith was 2/3 on d1 and slipped.

[OngBonga]

Idk why playing poker would stop you from just posting your conscience thoughts about each player

It stops me reading through old pages. I'm gonna have a bite to eat and then get started.

[OngBonga]

And if you just want thougths off memory, fine...

Gabe - feels wolfy but he always feels wolfy. Flip flopping on me without really giving any reason other than me not being good.
MMM - stubborn but feels more villager than wolf. idk
JKDS - wolf
Dhuber - a little wolfy but lots in his favour, in particular rilla and baud pushing him, and drew flipping between me and doobs without really explaining why. I think drew is a wolf happy to take an mislynch. ergo, doobs is a mislynch.
Ong - sup
BID - wolfy. Not explaining himself, moans at me for a late rilla vote after he jumped on reluctantly and late.
Hoops - villager. didn't lynch me d1, did lynch rilla d2, I see no reason to worry about him.
Keybored - vill lean, although jkds' 2/3 comment has me a little worried. keyb didn't lynch me d1 either and has been thoughtful and concise. If he's a wolf he's playing better than both rilla and baudib, which would be quite something.
Luco - very probably a villager. He's certainly shaken off the lying low feel he had on days 1+2, and was significant in the rilla lynch

[JKDS]

Why do you need to read though? Are you admitting that you havent been thinking about these players? I dont even know what to say to that. Im not asking you to forget your wolf reads, just to voice your villager ones. It feels like you really dont have any and havent been trying to do this, which is highly unlike you. I remember tons and tons of games where you go batshit over a bunch of wolves being dead, and get all these reads on other players, but that hasnt happened here. It seems like instead, you're just combing over the thread for any reason at all that a player could be a wolf and voicing it. I hate this phrase, but the "seeing what sticks" approach.

[OngBonga]

Why do you need to read though? Are you admitting that you havent been thinking about these players?

Through today, no they have not been my focus. You have. That's why I would prefer to have a proper read before laying down my reads. I'm still expecting to be lynched today and I don't really want to die leaving a half arsed list of reads like that.

[JKDS]

There we go! In fairness, ill do mine now.

MMM: Weakest villager read. I havent looked hard at him, and i dont know his meta very well. What i see are posts like "x+y cant be wolves together" and they scream villager to me.
Dhub: Wolves went after him, he defended a wolf that could have been modkilled. Not a wolf.
Luco: Part of the three who killed rilla, instead of me. 1% chance of wolfing.
Hoopy: same
BID: same
Keybored: old stuff, + hes been voting 'flavor of the month'.
Ong: nough said
Gabe: He suggested killing rilla late day 2, i think it inspired luco/hoopy/bid to lynch rilla. I dont see him wolfing after that.

[OngBonga]

Gabe: He suggested killing rilla late day 2, i think it inspired luco/hoopy/bid to lynch rilla. I dont see him wolfing after that.

I recall gabe saying "shall we lynch rilla"?

Compare that to how I started d2, and then explain why gabe is leaning villager for his part in the rilla wagon, while I'm your top wolf pick.

This is my problem with you JKDS. You're not making any sense to me. I can see you're either a wolf or misreading me. I just don't understand why it's the latter. I either threw rilla under the bus, and that was my intention from the beginning of d2, or I soulread him. That's what happened. One of those two. You're not suggesting either, instead you're dismissing me as unimportant.

And if I'm a wolf with rilla, why did I back off him after showing such aggression as the day started? Why risk all the village cred I set myself up for by looking like I didn't want it to happen?

These things I would expect you to be thinking about. You're inflexible in your read on me, despite evidence suggesting that you're wrong. You won't even consider the evidence. And you talk to me about what's pro-town.

This is why I'm thinking you must be a wolf. It doesn't suit your agenda to let me off the hook. You've come this far and I'm this close to lynch.

[Luco]

jkds rilla was on my radar from d1 and going into d2 he was one of my preferred lynches. for me at least, gabe didnt inspire jack and i couldnt remember anything he posted until i started rereading

[OngBonga]

gabe has 18 posts, this will be a quickie...

He attacked baudib on d1 and looks good for that. He's not saying much though.

After reading what u said I'm less convinced dhuber needs to die. Maybe we meet in the middle and go rilla?

That's why JKDS has him a villager.

I think gabe looks ok based on the flips, but I have no idea why he looks better than me from jkds' pov.

[OngBonga]

doobs also has 18 posts but his posts have much more content than gabe's...

On d1 he backs off baudib and says there's a wolf between me and keith. This is suspect. He then buddies up to me, piggybacking off my keith read, and promtly turned on me when I moved back onto baudib and hasn't budged since.

doob's posts are wolfy, his motives are wolfy, but the fact rilla and baudib went after him has me thinking that he's probably just a villager.

[gabe]

i keep going back and forth on jkds and ong. both of them have it in them to be wolves in this spot. however it seems impossible that they would both be wolves. and ofc they could be village.

jkds makes a pretty good case for ong. as i read it i felt like i was ready to vote for ong

however i know jkds is capable of doing massive, convincing posts as a wolf. he tried to make his argument very formally with a proof, but the proof is weak because of #3. since hes smart enough to make these formal arguments, i would think he knows "3) B/c ong knows finding villagers helps find wolves, ong would find villagers" is not a true enough statement that this type of proof requires. (its not true because the 1st part doesnt necessarily imply the 2nd part. ong could easily be doing other things that he thinks helps the villagers)

so jkds uses this logic to try and convince us to vote ong. there are 2 possibilties.
-vanilla jkds is otherwise very confident ong is a wolf so tries to get the village behind him using a sloppy proof
-wolf jkds tries to force the village to vote ong, by using a proof that at a glance convincing but is actually a wolf trick

i feel like the 2nd possibility is likely enough that we really have to consider jkds


i also feel that hoopy's vote for me seems very out of the blue. why are you guys convinced hoopy isnt a wolf? his image is usually pretty consistent so its easy for him to blend in. maybe hoopy was trying to distract you guys from voting for his wolf buddy because he thought my name would take off. but its hard to see why anyone thinks im the best lynch for the village:

-yes i havent posted much. but this also means there is not much to go by when you find out im a villager
-i supported both wolf lynches. just so unlikely i would do that being a 3rd wolf when on day 1 and day 2 its not hard to get the focus on different people

[OngBonga]

Isolating posts on FTR sucks balls.

Hoopy, I'm scanning his posts and I feel like I'm wasting my time. His lack of d1 ong vote coupled with his d2 rilla vote is enough for me. Solid villager.

[Keybored]

I've been watching the Ong-JK battle from the sidelines cuz it's a shitstorm I don't wanna get involved with.

But here's my surface level take on it:
JKDS totally has a boner for Ong and no way Ong gets him off that (at least not today).
Ong has fought every minute of this game against heavy hitters and he's still charging.
Each of them has one or two die hard fans.
Thus, we're stalemated on votes.

But here's one thing I see under the surface:
Ong is the first 4-votee; thus if voting stalls today, Ong's hanged.

I'm getting a wolfier sense from JKDS mostly cuz of his stubborn, single minded attack of one player.
Ong ain't exactly being vill friendly but he's been under the gun so much too.

If you two can't remedy this today, then call timeout and each roll with your 2nd wolf suspect.
You can take the info gained from the lynch and tonight's killing and restart tomorrow if necessary.
I think the rest of us will recognize the mutual respect with neutrality.

BL...I'd hate for a strong player like Ong to hang just cuz us sideliners are busy gawking.

[JKDS]

I dont know why you backed off rilla. It doesnt make a ton of sense for either alignment, but to me it makes much more from a wolf.

Heres what i see. Two people say rilla looks wolfy. Then you bold and argue hes wolfy. A lot. But the crux of the argument is about his inactivity. Rilla shows up, starts being active, and then you back off...only to vote him again when he's already the majority lynch. Idk why you back off if you thought he was wolfy as a villager. But if you're a wolf with him, then it looks a lot like you were making a case for him that could easily be dismissed as soon as he posted. You wouldnt really want rilla to die day 2, so avoiding it would be a priority, but it doenst objectively look like you were really on his case.

As for gabe, it wasnt very long after he said that when people started voting rilla. People dont switch wagons late without feeling like the person will actually get lynched (else you're wasting your vote, etc). Gabe gave that confidence, and was clearly pro-rilla lynch. Hes posting minimally, yes. Is that his wolf game? I dunno, i suck at reading him. It doesnt seem like the same game he played in annon, though thats too different to really compare. But a process of elimination argument doesnt sit well with me when he's done this. You could just as easily make the same argument for any other player and ignore their villager cred too. It seems more like a "its gabe, cant trust him" point of view.

[OngBonga]

I dont know why you backed off rilla. It doesnt make a ton of sense for either alignment, but to me it makes much more from a wolf.

I backed off rilla because I wanted to put pressure on you. I dunno how that's not clear. Rilla got active did he? That's news to me. He basically turned up, brushed me off, and then fucked off again. That was never going to satisfy me.

[JKDS]

@Gabe: The proof is only sloppy if you disagree with the axiom at the start. You have to disagree that villager ong would normally find villagers, and I dont.

[JKDS]

He got pretty active, ya. You even had a 5-10 post squabble with him. Then you said something like "he has to hunt now" and unvoted to lynch me. If you were so pro-rilla lynch as you claim, it doesnt make sense that you hopped off almost as soon as he started posting.

[JKDS]

But again, i see that bit as alignment neutral.

[Luco]

He got pretty active, ya. You even had a 5-10 post squabble with him. Then you said something like "he has to hunt now" and unvoted to lynch me. If you were so pro-rilla lynch as you claim, it doesnt make sense that you hopped off almost as soon as he started posting.

and its still way more than you did

[OngBonga]

He got pretty active, ya. You even had a 5-10 post squabble with him. Then you said something like "he has to hunt now" and unvoted to lynch me. If you were so pro-rilla lynch as you claim, it doesnt make sense that you hopped off almost as soon as he started posting.

Of course it makes sense. Rilla got called out for being inactive, he emerges and has an exchange. I back off him because whether he's a wolf or villager, I want him to post some content. I turn to you while I wait to see what rilla does, because at the time you're another person who I want to bait into doing something. I wasn't gonna say it at the time because it renders my vote on you useless, but I was very likely to move my vote back on to rilla later in the day. I just wanted to see what he came up with, and didn't want to twiddle my thumbs while I waited.

[OngBonga]

and its still way more than you did

^ this too

[OngBonga]

Thoughts on mojo -

Post #115

Between Ong and baud, I find what could be seen as "double-talk" in baud's posts.

This post is one example.

Baud is pointing attention at Daven, but leaves his vote on Ong.

This attention on Daven is suspect since it comes after the JKDS post about lynching an inactive on day1, and daven had not yet "activated".

rescind Luco

lynch baudib

I like this. He could've took a swing for me but he didn't. He chose wolf not villager. This vote remained on baudib and contributed heavily to his lynch. Huge v points here for mojo.

mojo feels like someone who lacks information and is trying to figure stuff out. Strong village lean for his baudib vote d1.

[OngBonga]

luco and keyb later, I'm going out.

[JKDS]

Of course it makes sense. Rilla got called out for being inactive, he emerges and has an exchange. I back off him because whether he's a wolf or villager, I want him to post some content. I turn to you while I wait to see what rilla does, because at the time you're another person who I want to bait into doing something. I wasn't gonna say it at the time because it renders my vote on you useless, but I was very likely to move my vote back on to rilla later in the day. I just wanted to see what he came up with, and didn't want to twiddle my thumbs while I waited.

The fact remains that you didnt do so until about an hour before deadline when Rilla was already majority vote. I dont believe that you would have been the nail in the coffin had BID not done so.

and its still way more than you did

If you say so. Look, if you want to argue I defended Baudib, go for it. I did. But I brought up evidence against rilla based on Baudib's "1 of daven/rilla is a wolf" posts. No, it wasnt much. And no, i didnt push it. And no, rilla wasnt even my second choice. But NONE of that is relevant to the question of "is Ong wolfing". You want to give ong cred for what he did against rilla, but it doesnt seem like much at all.

[Luco]

i keep going back and forth on jkds and ong. both of them have it in them to be wolves in this spot. however it seems impossible that they would both be wolves. and ofc they could be village.

jkds makes a pretty good case for ong. as i read it i felt like i was ready to vote for ong

however i know jkds is capable of doing massive, convincing posts as a wolf. he tried to make his argument very formally with a proof, but the proof is weak because of #3. since hes smart enough to make these formal arguments, i would think he knows "3) B/c ong knows finding villagers helps find wolves, ong would find villagers" is not a true enough statement that this type of proof requires. (its not true because the 1st part doesnt necessarily imply the 2nd part. ong could easily be doing other things that he thinks helps the villagers)

so jkds uses this logic to try and convince us to vote ong. there are 2 possibilties.
-vanilla jkds is otherwise very confident ong is a wolf so tries to get the village behind him using a sloppy proof
-wolf jkds tries to force the village to vote ong, by using a proof that at a glance convincing but is actually a wolf trick

i feel like the 2nd possibility is likely enough that we really have to consider jkds


i also feel that hoopy's vote for me seems very out of the blue. why are you guys convinced hoopy isnt a wolf? his image is usually pretty consistent so its easy for him to blend in. maybe hoopy was trying to distract you guys from voting for his wolf buddy because he thought my name would take off. but its hard to see why anyone thinks im the best lynch for the village:

-yes i havent posted much. but this also means there is not much to go by when you find out im a villager
-i supported both wolf lynches. just so unlikely i would do that being a 3rd wolf when on day 1 and day 2 its not hard to get the focus on different people

Gabe what do you make of hoopy at the end of D1? Firstly his voting but also his mistake over the time they had left. Do you think it's role neutral?

[BankItDrew]

Updated vote count?

I kind of feel like doing what I did at the end of Day 2 - switch my vote to a wolf.

[gabe]

ok i have reviewed how rilla got killed and theres no way im voting to kill jkds. just too often he writes something and i nod along

ong on the other hand must die. i shouldnt have held back when he had 4 votes. i believe everyone is just good and reads him as a wolf so thats what the votes were stacked on him (and besides, theres only 2 wolves)

lynch ong


too many ong posts i can easily see being seeded from a wolf perspective. he is the only person alive that MUST die so what better time than now, what better place than here

[wufwugy]

gabe - ong
luco - bid
key - gabe
hoops - gabe
bid - ong
mmm - dhubs
ong - jkds
dhubs - ong
jkds - ong

bid - 1
gabe - 2
ong - 4
dhubs - 1
jkds - 1

Just over 4 hours

[BankItDrew]

I think gabe made a RATM reference. Strong V lean.

[gabe]

Gabe what do you make of hoopy at the end of D1? Firstly his voting but also his mistake over the time they had left. Do you think it's role neutral?

i dont want to make a read based on that mistake, because that happens to me all the time. its rare i know how much time is left in a day unless the mod is being active. also the timestamps on ftr never seem to be in my timezone so idk

BUT i will say that this post

Got the same count, with BID and JKDS both on 1.

lynch keith

For wanting to kill a villager rather than a wolf today.

is wolfy. i know hoopy recanted v quickly, but the level 0 logic in that^ post is not standard for hoopy. it seems he was trying to frame keith in a negative light instead of putting any thought into WHY keith would be motivated to promote his theory. as a wolf, who would seriously promote lynching villagers? to casual players, lynching villagers purposefully will never be a popular opinion, so for keith to put it out there, there must be some uncommon sense to it

[MadMojoMonkey]

@gabe: who's the other wolf?

I agree Hoopy looked null to bad on day 1, but the vote on day 2.... I can't see Luco or Hoopy as wolf for that... not today.

How can you single out his day1 without noting the voting on rilla? What strategy do you think the wolves are running that allows for Luco/Hoopy to be wolves?

[MadMojoMonkey]

rescind

[BankItDrew]

gabe - ong
luco - bid
key - gabe
hoops - gabe
bid - ong
mmm - dhubs
ong - jkds
dhubs - ong
jkds - ong

bid - 1
gabe - 2
ong - 4
dhubs - 1
jkds - 1

Just over 4 hours

Just like the voting at the end of Day 2 vs JKDS - the voting here doesn't make sense to me.

If ong were a wolf, why would he and his only remaining teammate be so reluctant to vote separately, rather than both on gabe?

It's late in Day 3 and ong isn't even going after gabe, who is in 2nd place with votes.

This would only make sense if ong is a wolf an the 2nd wolf is already on gabe. So, if ong were to switch to gabe, gabe would look like a lock villager going into Day 4 and the other players who voted for gabe would become suspect.

[BankItDrew]

I incorrectly used the word 'reluctantly'.

[Luco]

no offence but you guys have too much respect for ongs wolf game


and not enough for jkds

[Keybored]

i keep going back and forth on jkds and ong. both of them have it in them to be wolves in this spot. however it seems impossible that they would both be wolves. and ofc they could be village.

jkds makes a pretty good case for ong. as i read it i felt like i was ready to vote for ong

however i know jkds is capable of doing massive, convincing posts as a wolf. he tried to make his argument very formally with a proof, but the proof is weak because of #3. since hes smart enough to make these formal arguments, i would think he knows "3) B/c ong knows finding villagers helps find wolves, ong would find villagers" is not a true enough statement that this type of proof requires. (its not true because the 1st part doesnt necessarily imply the 2nd part. ong could easily be doing other things that he thinks helps the villagers)

so jkds uses this logic to try and convince us to vote ong. there are 2 possibilties.
-vanilla jkds is otherwise very confident ong is a wolf so tries to get the village behind him using a sloppy proof
-wolf jkds tries to force the village to vote ong, by using a proof that at a glance convincing but is actually a wolf trick

i feel like the 2nd possibility is likely enough that we really have to consider jkds

I tried to get a timeout called but nobody wanted that apparently.

Gabe has a gift for cutting to the chase.
So I'm starting to understand why/how he posts.
I agree with him here so I'm getting behind him (along with my prev stated JK views).
I also think JKDS is completely aware that Ong's on the vote bubble and is trying to stall us all into a bad lynch.

Rescind and Lynch JKDS

[BankItDrew]

rescind

Why did you rescind off of dhub?

You gave no explanation
dhub was not threatened to be lynched
You didn't bold someone else

[MadMojoMonkey]

Why did you rescind off of dhub?

You gave no explanation
dhub was not threatened to be lynched
You didn't bold someone else

because suddenly a gabe/BID combo doesn't look so impossible.

[Keybored]

I tried to get a timeout called but nobody wanted that apparently.

Gabe has a gift for cutting to the chase.
So I'm starting to understand why/how he posts.
I agree with him here so I'm getting behind him (along with my prev stated JK views).
I also think JKDS is completely aware that Ong's on the vote bubble and is trying to stall us all into a bad lynch.

Rescind and Lynch JKDS

Obv I was making this while Gabe was changing his vote to Ong just now.
I'm still seeing JKDS and Ong's vill flip will make the case.

[BankItDrew]

no offence but you guys have too much respect for ongs wolf game


and not enough for jkds

Other than possibly a read or two during Day 1, I agree with (I believe) everything JKDS has posted. His thoughts and reads are in line with mine. If he turns out to flip wolf, I guess this post has me bonned haha

[BankItDrew]

because suddenly a gabe/BID combo doesn't look so impossible.

This must imply that you believe there are current impossibilities within this game.

What are they?

[Luco]

so drew do you agree with jkds statement that gabes one off the cuff comment about rilla gives him more v cred than the dozen or so posts from ong where he not only antagonises rilla but goes to some detail to explain exactly why rilla be wolfin?

[MadMojoMonkey]

gabe lynch:

If gabe is a wolf, then { JKDS, ong BID } look the worst.

If gabe is vil, then ong almost def is wolf, which clears JKDS, dhuber and yes, BID.

***
ong lynch:

If ong is vil, then gabe is almost def. wolf with JKDS or BID.

If ong is wolf, then gabe is basically cleared along with JKDS, dhuber and yes, BID

***
With Luco and hoopy cleared, adding gabe, JKDS, dhuber and BID... that's everyone but me and keybored, and he's looking pretty solid village.

Call it WIFOM or Occam's razor, but gabe wolf looks simplest.

lynch gabe

[BankItDrew]

so drew do you agree with jkds statement that gabes one off the cuff comment about rilla gives him more v cred than the dozen or so posts from ong where he not only antagonises rilla but goes to some detail to explain exactly why rilla be wolfin?

I have to admit that no, I wouldn't agree with that at all. Someone shouldn't get a lot of V cred for one comment without any good reasons behind it.

[gabe]

everyone keep in mind the wolves can be doing things to control the angel. so maybe some point early in the thread, a wolf actively tried to succeed at getting a wolf killed

the real "clearing" of villagers starts tonight. ong or jkds both will give us the much info, and i think ong is a wolf more often

i know this is different than what i posted earlier today. but this is the first time ive reread with baudib/rilla as wolves in mind

[MadMojoMonkey]

everyone keep in mind the wolves can be doing things to control the angel. so maybe some point early in the thread, a wolf actively tried to succeed at getting a wolf killed

the real "clearing" of villagers starts tonight. ong or jkds both will give us the much info, and i think ong is a wolf more often

i know this is different than what i posted earlier today. but this is the first time ive reread with baudib/rilla as wolves in mind

Who is the other wolf, gabe?

[gabe]

im not convinced you, luco, hoopy, or keybored are villagers.

i do think BID is very very likely a villager. dhuber has 0 experience hunting and is probably just letting us do our thing.


it makes sense the wolves would try to control the ghost angel, while simultaneously acting to "clear" one of themselves. they could ride that person to the end of the game while the dead wolves affect the game from beyond.

it is for this reason its hard to say anyone is cleared. but its hard to fake some of the work jkds and bid have put in. others im not so sure, yet

[Keybored]

everyone keep in mind the wolves can be doing things to control the angel.
so maybe some point early in the thread, a wolf actively tried to succeed at getting a wolf killed

the real "clearing" of villagers starts tonight.
ong or jkds both will give us the much info, and i think ong is a wolf more often

i know this is different than what i posted earlier today.
but this is the first time ive reread with baudib/rilla as wolves in mind

Dude, you had me with your first post today. But I can't believe you just said this!

Yep...Wolf Gabe just howled.

Rescind and Lynch GABE

[BankItDrew]

im not convinced you, luco, hoopy, or keybored are villagers.

luco and hoopy are the strongest villager candidates imo

they were # 2 and #3 votes on the rilla wagon that took off at the end of Day 2

[Luco]

gabe you havent cleared keybored? really? dude has independant thought in spades and hes in the thick of everything

[Luco]

rescind drew, lynch gabe

I would happily switch to ong... NOWAIT the other one, jkds! Ill happily switch to jkds if things head that way

[BankItDrew]

With this dramatic swing from ong to gabe, ong has to be a wolf if gabe isn't.

[BankItDrew]

Although, neither could be, or both could be, and the remaining wolf is just fucking with the swing.

[gabe]

luco and hoopy are the strongest villager candidates imo

they were # 2 and #3 votes on the rilla wagon that took off at the end of Day 2

voting doesnt matter if the wolves had some ghost angel domination strategy... however luco's following reasons are harder to fake

gabe you havent cleared keybored? really? dude has independant thought in spades and hes in the thick of everything

tbh i wasnt focusing as much on his words as i was others' during the giant reread. i will be going over him since you brought it up. while reviewing i was focused more on picking apart the words of the main characters of todays debate

[Luco]

gabe please go back and look at ONG and JKDS in terms of their INTERACTION WITH CONFIRMED WOLVES (rilla and baud) and tell me how ong comes off worse

[BankItDrew]

look at ONG and JKDS in terms of their INTERACTION WITH CONFIRMED WOLVES (rilla and baud) and tell me how ong comes off worse

I need to swallow my pride. I've been on ongs case from Day 1 but I never really had great reasons. It was more of a "omg I think I found a read on him and I want to look like a genius!"

rescind

Pride Swallowed

Gabe made a super wolfy post when he said he wasn't convinced hoopy and luco were villagers, who are as close to lock villagers as there can be.

lynch gabe

[wufwugy]

is that 5?

[wufwugy]

yes it r 5

[MadMojoMonkey]

I think so.

Me, hoopy, keybored, luco, and BID seals it.

[wufwugy]

Gubu done got gatface

The Living

MMM
JKDS
Dhuber
Ong
BID
Hoops
Keybored
Luco

The Dead

A crazy, themed game (or ur mam)
baudib
keith
rilla
daven
gabe

The Village

6 villagers
2 wolves
4 ghost angels!


Night 3 now. Wolves and ghost angels have till 2:30PM PST tomorrow to send me choices. Talk is free

[MadMojoMonkey]

Sorry gabe. I hope you're right about ong, 'cause if we miss 2 in a row we are up against the wall.

[Keybored]

Oh damn!
To paraphrase a great villager: I've never felt so wrong about a lynch.
Hope you get revived.
Sorry kid

[Luco]

Sorry gabe. I hope you're right about ong, 'cause if we miss 2 in a row we are up against the wall.

Let's not miss two then

gg gabe, I was considering a rescind but just couldn't leave ong high and dry

[Hoopy]

Well, that sucks. Sorry gabe.

I'm gonna have to reevaluate Ong and JKDS, they can't both be wolves.

[BankItDrew]

ong a wolf







jk i have no idea

[Hoopy]

Scratch that, I gonna have to rethink this whole game.

Only thing I feel confident on is BID and Luco being villagers.

[Luco]

Well, that sucks. Sorry gabe.

I'm gonna have to reevaluate Ong and JKDS, they can't both be wolves.

you missed all the fun!

[Hoopy]

I can't remember why I thought MMM was a villager, something to do with day 1 voting?

[Hoopy]

you missed all the fun!

I won't miss anymore fun!

[BankItDrew]

60 second off the top of my head reads:

MMM - started both the rilla and gabe train. i'm mostly vanilla on him
JKDS - need to re-evaluate. i can't honestly seem to lock down one way or another here
Dhuber - wolfy based on what baudib said about him, randomly, just before getting the noose. might be enough for me to run with.
Ong - meh. i'm the first to admit that i've been flip flopping here.
BID - lock villager obv
Hoops - lock villager for what happened to rilla
Keybored - on my wolf list tbh
Luco - lock villager for what happened to rilla

[Luco]

Gabe inspired theory - the last wolves are jkds and hoopy

hoopys timing mistake d1 can be genuine regardless of alignment, we dont actually know where he would have settled. And d2 if wolf jkds was on the ropes rilla would be almost begging the den to use him as a meat shield, so if jkds flips wolf we need to take a good look at hoopy

d3 hoops is mostly coasting