Quote Originally Posted by jackvance View Post
Not just allin. The person who called has the option to muck. Think of it as being in the casino, when you call you pay to see the other guy's hand and you only need to show your hand if you want to make a claim on the pot. It could be that the river went check/check, then you look at who called on the turn and so on.

That said, it does suck if they don't show mucked cards, that's so much information in online poker.
exactly, and i'm so used to using it in my study that i'm most likely moving to carbon... i just think its BS. im not at the casino, where i also don't have a massive database for study work