Werewolf - Collapse of Civilization

[lolzzz_321]

also, it's not a 100% lookup, it's a an unknown constant percentage

Shotglass, are you a villager?

[supa]

Damn guys, sorry, I just realized this.

I think you can still try. This is a daytime role is it not?

[supa]

Wait. Wat.

[Shotglass]

also, it's not a 100% lookup, it's a an unknown constant percentage

Shotglass, are you a villager?

Direct question requires a direct answer, even though I realize that my long defense and redirect post above and this answer will prolly shorten the time that I get to play.

Plain 'ole villager. Not a special, not a wolf.

[OngBonga]

Gator, why would you change the vote of someone with like a minute before deadline, and act all shocked and defensive when it draws attention to you? Did you not think as you made the vote "I'm gonna get some shit for this tomorrow"? You saved wuf. I got the feeling that everyone was expecting me to lead the wuf charge again, but your switch just sits uncomfotably with me.

Shotglass is someone who was supporting my early charge on wuf, but dropped off. I say she's acting weird, and suddenly I'm her wolf target.

I would like to lynch shotglass, and if she's a wolf, I won't rest until gator is dead.

[GatorJH]

Gator, why would you change the vote of someone with like a minute before deadline, and act all shocked and defensive when it draws attention to you? Did you not think as you made the vote "I'm gonna get some shit for this tomorrow"? You saved wuf. I got the feeling that everyone was expecting me to lead the wuf charge again, but your switch just sits uncomfotably with me.

Shotglass is someone who was supporting my early charge on wuf, but dropped off. I say she's acting weird, and suddenly I'm her wolf target.

I would like to lynch shotglass, and if she's a wolf, I won't rest until gator is dead.

I did expect some heat and explained why I did what I did. What bothered me is when that evolved to level upon level upon level.

[OngBonga]

I did expect some heat and explained why I did what I did. What bothered me is when that evolved to level upon level upon level.

It's what we come to expect from you. You should consider it a compliment.

[Shotglass]

Gator, why would you change the vote of someone with like a minute before deadline, and act all shocked and defensive when it draws attention to you? Did you not think as you made the vote "I'm gonna get some shit for this tomorrow"? You saved wuf. I got the feeling that everyone was expecting me to lead the wuf charge again, but your switch just sits uncomfotably with me.

Shotglass is someone who was supporting my early charge on wuf, but dropped off. I say she's acting weird, and suddenly I'm her wolf target.

I would like to lynch shotglass, and if she's a wolf, I won't rest until gator is dead.

MOre ignoring and glossing over of facts. Why won't you respond?

[OngBonga]

Respond? Did I miss a question? I don't care if I die, that's why I haven't responded as you might have hoped. I'm not a special, so I'm happy to go to the gallows if it helps the village, which it will. Don't lynch the inactives. If they coast through as a wolf, well, bravo to them for their tactical superiority. There's a high % that all of them are villagers, because they would all be stoked if they were a wolf.

The way I see it, there's not that many wolf candidates. There's shotty, gator, wuf, bikes, hoopy supa and myself. This group should be who the village target. If it has to be me, so be it. Just don't string up the inactives, it will help the wolves more than us.

[DropTheBanana]

Sorry guys, for being so quiet. There was an internet outage in my area and trying to read the thread on my blackberry was driving me insane.

Will now start reading back through the end of yesterday and today. Will be back in a few minutes with my thoughts.

[philly and the phanatics]

only got through page 7 of my re-read...will continue the rest after work tonight...

feeling less comfortable about lynching supa....leaning more towards hoopy

and @ supa- i would never play this way as a villager or a wolf or a special, i finally got a job serving at buffalo wild wings so ive been working a shit load, thats the only reason for my switch of style. I'd say ive definetely been as useless as every game where i was a villager lol, just a little less active


and @ tlr, why the fuck do you want to lynch me every goddamn game?!?!? it doesnt matter if we are both wolves or both villagers (never had a game where one of us was a villager and the other a wolf), its as inevitable as night time.

[wufwugy]

I should have posted this earlier but did not want to

100% proof I am a villager based on what happened with me and Benny. So any ideas of me and Gator being wolves together can be done with. Gator could still be a wolf, but I'll explain the one way that's possible and why I dont like focusing on it right now. And about me and Benny, I won a coinflip. Benny could have saved me. If we're both wolves, he would have, end of story. The risk of a coinflip instead of 100% living was just waaaaaay too much since not much else changes WRT my villager cred

[Shotglass]

Respond? Did I miss a question?

Here's m,y question:

Why would Hoopy lump you in with Benny? As a distraction or a mis-step?

[Shotglass]

Lynch Hoopy

If he's a wolf then Ong should be right behind him.

[wufwugy]

lynch lolz imo

jeez

[wufwugy]

hoopy is not a wolf

[OngBonga]

I don't know why hoopy said whatever. Lynching him is ok with me, I think we get info from his lynch for sure, but I'd much rather see shotty go today, sorry girl.

[OngBonga]

hoopy is not a wolf

I don't think so either at this stage. He remains in my suspect camp though, as do you, though obv you're no longer my priority.

[wufwugy]

I don't think so either at this stage. He remains in my suspect camp though, as do you, though obv you're no longer my priority.

damn, son. How exactly am I still in your suspect camp? I was the one who brought the heat on Benny in the first place, gabe would never have wanted to shoot him if it wasn't for me, then BennyLaWolf DOESN'T do what he would 100% of the time if I was a wolf by saving me?

Hoopy was as close a shit to dying based on bigred. And Benny was a wagoner

bikes was right, hoopy is 100% villager. Not to mention that hoopy was integral in me living. He was the first on the fulksy wagon. Actually, he wasn't first, he started it. I was talking about it, and was waiting for somebody to express interest so I could hop on and get momentum. So you think that BennyLaWolf refused to get off my wagon even though there was every apparent reason, but wolf-hoopy was essential to my wagon not killing me?

Like JV said, it's never that complicated. I don't know exactly what to make of all that happened on that day, but Occam says it's probably just a simple thing

[DropTheBanana]

I would bet money the wolves (or atleast one of them) complimented Gabe on his shot. In his shoes I would have done the same thing for obvious reasons and was hoping he would pull the trigger on Benny. It was a VERY logical shot and not because of sheer suspicion but strategy wise.

But I'm sure the wolves train of thought didn't lead them to that conclusion and were like "OOOOH SOULDREAD!!"

I don't have anything concrete on everybody specific to this game yet to build a case against them, but starting with that subset of people and breaking them down would be a good idea imo.

I do have one question for Gabe. Why do you think the angel saved you last night? Just a hunch?

[Shotglass]

Occam says it's probably just a simple thing

I agree. I think that some of us are reading WAY,WAY too much into yesterday's events.

[gabe]

I was the one who brought the heat on Benny in the first place, gabe would never have wanted to shoot him if it wasn't for me,

interesting


lolzzz can u clarify why u dont have any info? did u just give up the freeroll? i dont get it

[gabe]

I do have one question for Gabe. Why do you think the angel saved you last night? Just a hunch?

cuz the angel is smart, it was the only play. just like its the only play on the next night



i think hoopy is a bad lynch

[wufwugy]

I have a lot to say, but I don't wanna say some of it, so I think I'm just gonna stick to who I think are villagers

Hoopy - I made the case already. If he's a wolf, that's the craziest wolf happenstance there is

Boog - Bigred wanted him dead, and he would have been an easy kill. Benny hopped on that wagon early too. Neither of them will do this at that stage if Boog is wolf

lolz - Buck up, son. We're playing a game here

gabe - He's got some bigass balls, and most of what he does doesn't make sense. The weird thing is that I have developed a methodology for finding wolves, and he was on the villager side of that quite strongly, but damn that vig outing and everything there was just wtfbbq. I became positive gabe's prerogative in WW is "hahahahahah"

bikes - Needs to post more, but good shot at him being a villager based on him pointing out a rather genuine look at why Hoopy is a villager

bongie - If he's a wolf then he is insaaaanely good. His behavior is VERY genuine, and that is tough as nails to pull off when a wolf. My whole case for Benny was that he was simply not taking genuine actions, and every wolf I've ever found I did so based partly on them just not being genuine. People who don't know underestimate how tough it is to be genuine when a wolf

Gator - Probably a villager, but he's also the best wolf in the game IMO. So if he is a wolf, he ain't really gonna look much like it. Granted, he appears a little more villagery and genuine this game than when he wtfpwnt that other game. My drop on Gator is same as always: he's always a villager until down to the wire because he's good enough to find all the wolves before the game is near its end. So if he's still alive at the end, that's when he's a wolf

shotglASS - villager because she's doing a very good job of playing authentically. But that's revisitable

I'm not sure what more I want to say about others

Also, I have a hard time thinking that anybody who hopped off my wagon are wolves. Benny never did for a reason. My reason is that the wolves wanted me fucking dead, so they're not gonna hop off, but that could be wrong, and one small difference could mean that the wolves wanted to diversify how they got at me

[wufwugy]

interesting

i get to say that because you only bolded him after i made a uber case against him

[gabe]

i dont think we should lynch anyone that you just mentioned

also..

5 posts before u said all this

I think both dan and benny are wolves

There's a lot of small evidences for who's in the village camp and who's in the wolf camp, and none of the village camp ones apply to either of them. I'm a little taken aback at Benny just letting my wagon go. In every game, I always talk about how the wolves may wanna try to railroad me because it's mega bragging rights since it's never been done, and Benny is probably one of the few who would remember that and consider it. I didn't wanna mention that this game because I had a similar read on Ragnar in last game and it was wrong. I don't like being wrong

Anyways, Benny seems way to happy to lynch me compared to what I would expect. Not to mention that he's claiming strategy stuff that I have in the past, yet he's not sticking with that and is making a wuf lynch an exception. On top of that, he's not really giving any reason for why to lynch me, he's just playing follow-the-leader and saying how he's "cool with keeping his vote etc". I expect more of Benny, and I think he wants me to die. There's a reason why EVERYBODY on my wagon are low content, nub, or somewhat whimsical players. Except Benny and Warpe of course. Benny because he wants me dead and Warpe because he's not paying attention

i had posted

i think out of danA, benny, onga and philly there at least 1 wolf, maybe 2. danA/benny/onga i think are top 3 and vig should pop whoever we dont lynch

[wufwugy]

yes i kno

[gabe]

i cant start a bandwagon because if im wrong the wolves will just agree with me and make it tougher

[wufwugy]

that means you should start a bandwagon so we know who all the wolves are then

[Ragnar4]

Supa hasnt convinced me

Lynch supa

[Shotglass]

Sorry, wuf. I'm not totally convinced about Ongie but I'll reread through 8 pages to rethink my opinion of Hoopy.

One thing that I think that we can all (except Ongie) agree on is something that Gator pointed out earlier:

If we don't put pressure on the inactives that will become the defacto standard for the wolves, and has already proven to be effective in a few past games iirc.

It's suspicious that every time someone mentions going after the inactives Ongie gets his manties in a bunch. I really doubt that that's the weed talking; more likely trying to help a fellow wolf survive to the end.

For now, until I've re-read this thing...Again :sigh:
rescind hoopy

[lolzzz_321]

ya, gave up freeroll cuz I didn't know I had one

lynch hoopy

[gabe]

relevant benny post from earlier

The discussion about us keeping lookup info close to the chest is bang on...it was key to the DOJ victory.

We've got 6 hours to go and we have no momentum.

I maintain that in late game, it's really difficult to tell the Omega personalities (who merely drift and follow) from wolves appearing villagery. We've got no real evidence yet on Day 1 so would be best to weed out those who aren't assets to the village in late game...we've got a 20% chance to hit a wolf/turncoat and failing that, a 100% chance of keeping our best villagers.

Hoopy, lolzzz and fulksy are these kind of guys to me. And to those 3, if you disagree with me, you can change how much you participate and offer.

[supa]

Supa hasnt convinced me

Lynch supa

And I probably won't be able to convince you. The only one who really should be convinced at this point is wuf, who obv isn't.

[jackvance]

I'm also feeling a hoopy lynch, but unlike Benny, not convinced enough to bold just yet.

[wufwugy]

relevant benny post from earlier

Was this before the big ol hoopy wagon?

Benny has said in the past that when wolves make lists, they usually have like one wolf in them, so that would suggest that hoopy is that wolf, but I think other stuff is strong on hoopy being a villager, and Benny was the one who said that when he was making a case in the WnV game so he could like purposely not do it since he thinks people do it

[supa]

Look guys, Hoops is in the same boat as I am almost every game. Neither one of us ever make it to the end. I don't see any reason to believe he's a wolf but even if he is his usefulness to the village is gonna run out at some point, just like mine, and he's gonna get lunched. Might as well work on a more logical and dangerous wolf candidate imo.

[supa]

Why do I get the feeling that half the people in this game aren't even reading the thread?

[wufwugy]

Ragnar wasn't modkilled because he's a wolf. His posts are pretty wolfy and he's skating by

lynch ragnar

[philly and the phanatics]

Look guys, Hoops is in the same boat as I am almost every game. Neither one of us ever make it to the end. I don't see any reason to believe he's a wolf but even if he is his usefulness to the village is gonna run out at some point, just like mine, and he's gonna get lunched. Might as well work on a more logical and dangerous wolf candidate imo.

how is he just "going to get lunched" ....you just said that his usefulness for the village is going to run out...hence he would make the perfect candidate for the wolves to leave alive, much like how at the end of the Ship game it was Gator (the wolf) and stax (didnt care about the game) and viscaro (a n00b).


bikes and wuf however have done a fair amount to convince me otherwise of hoopy....now im actually going to work and wont be back until like 11

[supa]

Sorry, meant lynched. Meaning that as far as I can remember he rarely makes endgame.

[Shotglass]

After re-reading this again, bikes and wuf make a great case for hoopy being a villager.

Who are the biggest threats to the wolves? imo it'd be Wuf, Gator, Gabe, Warpe, Benny and JV, not necessarily in that order and assuming that they're not a wolf themselves (if I left any great players off of that list it wasn't intentional, just trying to make a point). It'd make sense to try to get rid of the biggest threats as early as possible.

We already know that Benny was a wolf which was why he never got off of the wuf wagon. Why save a BIG threat?
Fulksy - confirmed villager
Gabe - confirmed vig
That leaves Ongie and Warpe as the remaining two on wuf's wagon.http://www.flopturnriver.com/pokerfo...ml#post2054526
I could support a BW for either of them, but since Ongie's participating heavily and Warpe's participating minimally
Lynch Warpe

[bikes]

lynch ongbonga

out of all the wolf suspects left he's by far the most annoying.

[Warpe]

Why do I get the feeling that half the people in this game aren't even reading the thread?

Because it's 16 effin pages already? I'm trying hard to get a grip on it but I've got no feeling for this game yet, other than there are some kickass ww players in it and I don't want to lynch any of them.

[GatorJH]

Because it's 16 effin pages already? I'm trying hard to get a grip on it but I've got no feeling for this game yet, other than there are some kickass ww players in it and I don't want to lynch any of them.

This soooo looks like a wolf trying to lay low and not stand out.

I too think a lynch warpe is not a bad play for today.

[Ragnar4]

Ragnar wasn't modkilled because he's a wolf. His posts are pretty wolfy and he's skating by

lynch ragnar

I wasnt modkilled cuz i won a flip. You are pants-on-head retarded.

[wufwugy]

I wasnt modkilled cuz i won a flip. You are pants-on-head retarded.

Unconvinced that "he didn't log in and see that I was gonna modkill him" is reason enough for a500lbitch to give you a flip

[wufwugy]

pants on head retarded is hilarious btw

[Ragnar4]

Thanks. Its my new fave insult.

Can we revisit some of your logic for a min wuf? Your argument is that wolves want you dead. But instead of doing it the easy way. Instead they would try to lynch you. Serious???

[wufwugy]

Thanks. Its my new fave insult.

Can we revisit some of your logic for a min wuf? Your argument is that wolves want you dead. But instead of doing it the easy way. Instead they would try to lynch you. Serious???

It's that they want to lynch me because nobody has ever lynched egowugy. It's a bragging rights thing. It's something Benny could possibly have in his mind

I always concoct reasons for this to be true, but I've been wrong. It's something I always think about because in a way I care more about making awesome plays than making the right play, so to speak. The main reason I bring it up here is that Benny didn't disembark from my wagon for a reason, while he had virtually every opportunity to. There could be other explanations for this though

[wufwugy]

Days are short (not really, but for FTR they are), and not much wagoneering, so I'm guessing somebody's gonna get lynched by the end of tomorrow without being able to do something about

So I'll be cool and let Warpe prepare his defense now. rescind ragnar lynch warpe

ragnar's still a wolf tho

[wufwugy]

It's that they want to lynch me because nobody has ever lynched egowugy. It's a bragging rights thing. It's something Benny could possibly have in his mind

I always concoct reasons for this to be true, but I've been wrong. It's something I always think about because in a way I care more about making awesome plays than making the right play, so to speak. The main reason I bring it up here is that Benny didn't disembark from my wagon for a reason, while he had virtually every opportunity to. There could be other explanations for this though

About this, I've probably pulled it out of my ass. But maybe not. I always talk about being unlynchable, fatred even laughed at me when he thought I got legit lynched in that one game, so maybe there's something there, but probably not. Lots of guys don't get lynched, but I'm the only one who acts like he's super cool because of it

[TLR]

This soooo looks like a wolf trying to lay low and not stand out.

I too think a lynch warpe is not a bad play for today.

This was my take on it as well, Warpe as a wolf trying to lay low and avoid being looked up in the first few days, letting Benny be active as a wolf, then posting just enough to stay alive without saying much.

resync Philly (for now)
lynch Warpe

[philly and the phanatics]

ok im a little drunk so this may not be appropriate.....


@ wuf- yes you made all of that shit up. No fucking wolf gives a fuck about whether or not you get lynched. When fatred said it, it was right after you posted the philosoraptor thing. It was more of a "you got lynched the game after you said that you egotistical faggot"....than a "ZOMG WE FINALLY LYNCHED HIM BOYZ!!!!".....



and @ tlr.....way to answer to why you have bolded me in every single game since the werewolves and vamps game......i think you have realized that nobody gets defensive if you go after me, yet at the same time my wagons never seem to catch fire (i was lynched day 1 my first game ever, and at the very end of Vamps and WW....i have not gotten lynched in 5 out of 7 games) ...tlr is shooting up my list....sadly i wanted to go after him last game and he was the angel...so idk



like i said ive had a bit to drink so i may be out of line....go ahead and lynch me, i am a villager. Hopefully when you guys find that out it will make wuf realize how dumb he is for thinking (for 2-3 games straight) that the wolves have been hell bent on getting him lynched for some sort of dumb bragging rights (Holy shit has it not been driving anyone else absolutely bonkers that wuf is so dense?!?!??!?!?)

sorry wuf....love you =D

[philly and the phanatics]

lol 26 people viewing WW....yet only 4 people online according to the bottom of the main page

[philly and the phanatics]

nice i found out how to invisiblize myself nvm

[philly and the phanatics]

and supa if you think hoopy is going to be useless later, and get lynched anyway....waht is the use in waiting until it is a more crucial time for the village?

[philly and the phanatics]

35 people are viewing this thread now...why wont anyone talk to me =(

[wufwugy]

@ wuf- yes you made all of that shit up. No fucking wolf gives a fuck about whether or not you get lynched. When fatred said it, it was right after you posted the philosoraptor thing. It was more of a "you got lynched the game after you said that you egotistical faggot"....than a "ZOMG WE FINALLY LYNCHED HIM BOYZ!!!!".....

Just watch, as soon as I forget about it, it'll become everybody's number one priority. I am the center of the universe after all.

[wufwugy]

And the only reason I even mentioned it was because Benny refused to move off my wagon. There can be other explanations, I wouldn't be surprised if he was merely the only wolf on my wagon, but he stood out as the one and only person paying attention to still try to get me lynched

[philly and the phanatics]

yea but you said it last game too iirc, going on about how Rag wanted to get you for bragging rights or something...could be wrong....


either way, i do heart ya bud, just get a little annoyed at your egowugyness, whereas im sure people get annoyed by tons of things i do.

[TLR]

and @ tlr.....way to answer to why you have bolded me in every single game since the werewolves and vamps game......i think you have realized that nobody gets defensive if you go after me, yet at the same time my wagons never seem to catch fire (i was lynched day 1 my first game ever, and at the very end of Vamps and WW....i have not gotten lynched in 5 out of 7 games) ...tlr is shooting up my list....sadly i wanted to go after him last game and he was the angel...so idk

Every game I had different reasons to go after you
In this one you are totally playing under the radar which is not typical for you, and it seems like you are trying to avoid any attention.

It is interesting that you post this after I resynced you, but I still think there is a decent chance you are a wolf

[wufwugy]

egowugy is partially in jest. Partially

I learned from the Ragnar mistake. In that game, I got him killt because of it. This game, I'm not getting nobody killt because of it. Ragnar dying over that was pretty damn hilarious, if you ask me. It's not like I meant to be an ass, but all said and done, I had a laugh

[jackvance]

Has wuf been a wolf before? I can only remember him being a villager (I did skip a game however) so it's hard to say for me how he would act as a wolf.

And hm, many people coming to Hoopy's defense, interesting. Reminds me of what I often tend to do, heh. I don't think warpe is a good alternative target though. All the previous times he has acted like this he has been a villager.

[TLR]

Has wuf been a wolf before? I can only remember him being a villager (I did skip a game however) so it's hard to say for me how he would act as a wolf.

And hm, many people coming to Hoopy's defense, interesting. Reminds me of what I often tend to do, heh. I don't think warpe is a good alternative target though. All the previous times he has acted like this he has been a villager.

If I recall correctly Wuf was a wolf once and got lynched pretty early, but I did not go back to check the old game threads

[philly and the phanatics]

yea jv he was a wolf 2 games ago.....DOJ ww iirc....though i think he got seered night one lol


and also @ tlr...i just want you to love me....is that so hard?

[TLR]

and also @ tlr...i just want you to love me....is that so hard?

Might be easier if you drunk post a bit less

[gabe]

no analysis here i just dont really like the other lynches...

lynch dropthebanana


also i would like the angel to protect me, and the wolves to eat wuf.

[wufwugy]

Has wuf been a wolf before? I can only remember him being a villager (I did skip a game however) so it's hard to say for me how he would act as a wolf.

And hm, many people coming to Hoopy's defense, interesting. Reminds me of what I often tend to do, heh. I don't think warpe is a good alternative target though. All the previous times he has acted like this he has been a villager.

You bolded me before Benny outed, in that game

[wufwugy]

gabe is a good player. just sayin. he needs to explain wtf he was doing in the WnV game though

[Hoopy]

Why would Hoopy lump you in with Benny? As a distraction or a mis-step?

Benny is hard to read and I'm pretty sure Ong and you are villagers.

hoopy is not a wolf

i think hoopy is a bad lynch

This and this.

I'm also feeling a hoopy lynch, but unlike Benny, not convinced enough to bold just yet.

I think what you're feeling is psychotic blood lust due to being a wolf.

Rough list of villagers, JV/Ragnar are my top suspects.

Bikes
Gabe
Hoopy
Lolzzz_321
OngBonga
Shotglass
Supa
Wufwugy

[OngBonga]

bongie - If he's a wolf then he is insaaaanely good. His behavior is VERY genuine, and that is tough as nails to pull off when a wolf. My whole case for Benny was that he was simply not taking genuine actions, and every wolf I've ever found I did so based partly on them just not being genuine. People who don't know underestimate how tough it is to be genuine when a wolf

Funny thing is I'm trying to play in a way that brings suspicion onto me, because I realise it's going to be very tough for me to play my style when I'm a wolf. That's one reason I was so happy to lynch you on day 1, if you're a villager, I get lynched next day and you see I'm a villager and I can get away with that sort of shit on day 1 in the future as a wolf.

The reason I still have you in my suspect camp is fairly obvious... Benny could easily have been giving himself cover by lynching you, or giving you cover by refusing to fall off the wagon. It's not outrageous, I've seen sicker levels by wolves. Fact is though, I consider that unlikely at this moment. It seems the wolves were happy to see you lynched on day 1.

There's one single sentence you posted which did more to convince me you're not a wolf than the rest of your posts put together...

There is no way that a non-seer backed wagon of mine would take off like that this early if I was playing for the wolves. No chance and you know it

Ok that's two sentences, but you're right. The only way you're a wolf is if you planned something like this from the start, but it would seem too risky to put you to a flip to gain villager cred. I guess it's possible it wasn't as easy as you hoped to unwagon you, but like I said, this is all unlikely. At this moment, I don't think you're a wolf, but you still could be, it would be dangerous for you to have confirmed villager status.

I'm still happy to lynch shotglass, her posts after I pointed my finger at her seem way too defensive, I seem to have hit a nerve. Her coming at me doesn't bother me, and that's because I know she's wrong.

[Shotglass]

Funny thing is I'm trying to play in a way that brings suspicion onto me, because I realise it's going to be very tough for me to play my style when I'm a wolf.

Seems like great minds think alike

[Hoopy]

I went through Benny's posts and now feel that JV is not our best shot at a wolf, it's possible that Benny have decided to mix it up and only have villagers on his lists?

I echo the comments that JV is a strong villager, soulreading mofo extraordinaire.

Jack, what's up that you're not participating very much?

Hoopy hasn't posted since Wednesday. Fulksy, not since yesterday.

We know about Warpe's lack of posts. Jack, not since yesterday AM. He's posted three times the whole game, two were about the rules and only one was a comment on the game.

I could be up for lynching Warpe but Ragnar is a better choice imo.

[OngBonga]

Rilla, can I ask, are you flipping a coin to determine modkills each time? I ask because if that's the case, the inactives can prove they are villagers by willfully facing the flip by staying silent. A wolf would never take such a risk. As a quiet villager, they should be happy to take a 50-50 risk for the team if it helps narrow the wolf field. As a quiet wolf, they would quickly make their excuses and participate.