Good play?

[PKKFW]

SB is 14/9 agg 1.9 over 1342 hands. Notes say "pro short stacker, doesn't get out of line, respect his raises"
CO is a 68/7 fish, very passive and stationary.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (7 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

MP2 ($17.55)
CO ($7.40)
Button ($17.54)
SB ($9.27)
Hero (BB) ($10.81)
UTG ($10)
MP1 ($3.25)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 7, 7
3 folds, CO calls $0.10, 1 fold, SB bets $0.50, Hero calls $0.40, CO calls $0.40

I call because I am pretty much guaranteed CO will call which will give me good odds, which he does.

Flop: ($1.50) 4, K, 7 (3 players)
SB bets $1.07, Hero calls $1.07, 1 fold

Was considering raising here with my set but the monotone board made me play it a bit safe. I also figured CO would come along for the ride if I called rather than raised but unfortunately he didn't.

Turn: ($3.64) 6 (2 players)
SB bets $2.60, Hero calls $2.60

At this stage I'm got SB on AhA, KK, AhK and possibly 44. I really don't see him making this move with anything less than that. I'm ahead of most of that range and probably should have been raising here?

River: ($8.84) 4 (2 players)
SB bets $5.10 (All-In), Hero calls $5.10

Total pot: $19.04 | Rake: $0.93

Always calling with the FH and if I'm beat I'm beat.

Thoughts?

[Petulie]

I had a little go on stove. Unfortunately I don't have the program on my computer, using one on my phone, so sorry if this is a bit sloppy.

Villain is 14/9. Assuming that's very PP heavy, this could be a range like 22+, AJs+, AQo+ and maybe KQs.

Otf, if we narrow his betting range to 44, KK, AA, AKo, AhQx, AQhh, AJhh, you have like 70% equity. Easy call with station behind and you're IP to ensure you get monies in should SB drop his aggression/control pot size should a heart come down. (This only brings your equity down to 50% btw, if I've calculated all this correctly!)

The turn bricks and his betting range/your equity remain pretty much unchanged. Given the fact that villain continues his aggression on the turn, I wouldn't bother raising as 1) he is likely to continue this aggression on the river, 2) in the event of SB checking to a heart river you can control pot size, and 3) on non-heart rivers stacks are going in anyway given the sizes and being IP.

WP imo.

[supa]

Raise flop.

[Petulie]

Oh, we also don't raise the flop because we will likely just fold out hands we beat, drastically reducing our equity. Best to keep his range wide here.

[Petulie]

Raise flop.

Really? Why's that?

[supa]

I didn't read your post before I posted petulie which I think was well thought out. But I think in these situations villains range becomes really draw heavy and we need to charge them to continue, especially when we have someone behind us and we're pricing them in to call.

Mostly it's just supadonk spaz thinking "omg super draw heavy board raise!".

[Carroters]

Raise flop. This guy's never gonna put anymore money into the pot with AK AA KQ without a flush on heart turns and rivers, but his range on the flop is super strong and probably contains close to no air, so we're getting lots of money in miles ahead here by raising and folding out nothing but the hands he'll shutdown with anyways. He also likely stacks off with hands like AhQx and AhJx right now but not on blank turns and rivers. Leaving CO to take a cheap card here is fine on dry boards but on this texture we just need to be raising now while he also stacks off with all his Kx which we obliterate and also his dumb ass pair + heart hands which often a tard like him wont be able to fold even to a line this strong. We don't want these hands taking a cheap card and would much rather make him make a big mistake by putting loads of money in with 25% equity rather than play well vs us by calling with a good price to improve then fold rivers unimproved.

Basically, we're miles ahead on the flop, and can get ass loads of value there and then from various hands we crush, but can't get this value on a lot of turn and river cards.

A few comments on your ranges for SB. This preflop range is too wide, while a guy like this will play mainly PPs facing a raise, he'll be happy to complete most of them in a limped pot and will only raise good ones and good broadways. Something like 99+ AJ+ is likely more accurate.

Your flop range is really good, obv 44 is less likely due to the above, but besides that spot on.

At the end of your post you account for the fact that stacks go in on non h rivers, and we don't want them to on h rivers anyways. This is correct, but remember that the reason we don't want them to on h rivers is he now folds a ton of hands he stacks off with on the flop/turn that we can get him to put his monies in with on those streets! There are 8 combos of AK and 3 of AA that don't contain hearts get their monies! There are 8 combos of Ahx hands with no pair, get their monies, you crush them!

[PKKFW]

Thanks for the well thought out replies guys.

Something from the book Easy Game that really stuck with me was the bit about monotone boards. I'm going to have to re-read that bit as I sort of remembered that part stating to be very careful. With the benefit of time to think about it I think he basically says not to bluff at them which is different to raising with a set!

[bikes]

you misread mono boards if your conclusion was not to bluff.

also raise flop

[DoubleJ]

...Was considering raising here with my set but the monotone board made me play it a bit safe...

with three hearts on the flop and none in your hand, a single opponent has a 3.3% chance of having a flush, whilst the chances of a draw are 15.8%

wouldn't 'safe' be raising to protect against the draw?

[DoubleJ]

...Something like 99+ AJ+ is likely more accurate...

Are you weighting the 9% PFR for position, here?

[Carroters]

Are you weighting the 9% PFR for position, here?

Yeah I mean his ranges for isoing oop is going to be tighter than say his BU opening range which is going to influence the 9% a lot. He's going to be about as tight here as he is maybe UTG/MP with the odds to complete so many more marginal hands being tempting to a nit.

[DoubleJ]

weirdness - so i actually followed what Petulie did and then what you did. mebbe i'm finally learning something

but seriously...is that coming from experience? HUD Pop-Ups? leetle pokah rules of thumb? all of the above?

[Petulie]

My bad, of course what you say makes sense supa and Carrots, and actually I remember previously reading it's best to get the monies in while you have the most equity. Missed flush draws won't be calling non-h river bets, so obv stacks won't be 'going in anyway'.

In that case, as played, how about the turn raise? We'll still be getting calls from AK, AA, KK and maybe AQ AJ with a heart.

Also, I need to remember iso'ing ranges are tighter than opening ranges. Should I be iso'ing with a similar range if there's a reg on the BU and just limp along with 22-88 and some other implied odds hands?

[Carroters]

Yep we should just be completing 22-88 (ish) in most spots in the SB. Reason is it sucks to bloat pots oop with hands that flop weak ass stuff thats hard to play. Same goes for weak SC's and gappers. Obv IP you can just iso away though.

[Petulie]

Aha, I forgot villain was in SB. Good stuff, I just complete with those anyway. Was thinking more in a situation where we're iso'ing a limping fish in UTG/HJ from HJ/CO with a reg in CO/BU if that makes sense, but I see you say we should just iso away. Cool.

[Petulie]

So how about that turn raise? Just interested in case I boob and miss the raise on the flop.

[Carroters]

Yep as played raise the turn, same reasons really.

[PKKFW]

you misread mono boards if your conclusion was not to bluff.

also raise flop

What I was getting at was the bit from Easy Game that stuck with me. Basically he said mono boards are bad to bluff at micro stakes because most people can't find a fold if they do have a good draw to them. Of course that is just one opinion and I only mention it because I think my mis-remembrance of what was written unduly affected my play.

[PKKFW]

with three hearts on the flop and none in your hand, a single opponent has a 3.3% chance of having a flush, whilst the chances of a draw are 15.8%

wouldn't 'safe' be raising to protect against the draw?

Yes, looking at it that way, and in conjunction with what others have said I can see how raising is definitely the better play here.

[PKKFW]

Interesting side note to hand.......

Villain showed AdAs.......I can only assume my calls on flop and turn got him thinking I was on the draw rather than had a real hand. I was very surprised to see this guy play this way without a heart at all!

Not that it changes anything about raising the flop and getting the monies in of course.