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    Default Bluff line check with AKo

    Thoughts?

    Feel free to flame or w/e if you dont like it.

    Villain is 27/8/29 agg. with a 50/50 fbcb/cbt and 60 w$sd over 85


    PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (6 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

    CO ($9.01)
    Button ($10.21)
    Hero (SB) ($10)
    BB ($10.18)
    UTG ($10.15)
    MP ($10.95)

    Preflop: Hero is SB with K, A
    1 fold, MP calls $0.10, CO calls $0.10, 1 fold, Hero bets $0.56, 1 fold, MP calls $0.46, 1 fold

    Flop: ($1.32) 10, 4, 2 (2 players)
    Hero bets $0.80, MP calls $0.80

    Turn: ($2.92) 7 (2 players)
    Hero bets $1.80, MP calls $1.80

    River: ($6.52) 5 (2 players)
    [color=#CC3333]Hero bets $6.84 (All-In)


    Line?
    Turn sizing?
    Last edited by thelorax; 02-11-2011 at 05:11 PM.
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    How have you been running lately, pretty TAG or LAG?

    If you've been pretty tight over the last several orbits then he might be inclined to look you up with Tx, especially with ATs because IMO raising two limpers like that is screaming QQ+ or a steal and you're cbet on this flop continues to say overpair or bluff. I'd call the turn bet w/ AT because of the implied odds and fold when the river hit and you continued.

    Personally, I like the line and bet sizings...if it were with a thinking oppenent
    but most at the micros don't have a fold button and if you bluff to the river at this level then you're making a mistake

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    A couple things about bluffs...
    1. What hands are you trying to get him off of?
    2. Are you repping a better hand?
    3. Can this player fold the hands you want him to?

    Here, I don't think he's ever folding tp+, especially since all the draws missed, because he's so passive. Usually, it's way better to bluff tags who can read your line and might actually fold a decent one pair hand.

    If you just want to get him off hands like 88 or A2cc, probably a smaller bet gets just as many folds.
  4. #4
    ^ This
    First things that came to my mind
    Also the board never changed, and you will be put on AK all day long

    I always run big bluffs into the nuts... Then I want to break something
    Last edited by Smith; 02-11-2011 at 08:54 PM.
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    based on his stats he looks like a station i would not do this here ever, you are just going to kick yourself when he calls with 88 or something retarded
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shotglass View Post
    How have you been running lately, pretty TAG or LAG?

    If you've been pretty tight over the last several orbits then he might be inclined to look you up with Tx, especially with ATs because IMO raising two limpers like that is screaming QQ+ or a steal and you're cbet on this flop continues to say overpair or bluff. I'd call the turn bet w/ AT because of the implied odds and fold when the river hit and you continued.

    Personally, I like the line and bet sizings...if it were with a thinking oppenent
    but most at the micros don't have a fold button and if you bluff to the river at this level then you're making a mistake
    iso'ing 2 limpers does not scream QQ+ imo....if he is repping QQ+ then what does villain even have in his limping range that can call that bet if he was going to put hero on QQ+ like seriously.
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    no. do not do this. check and hope he has clubs that u beat
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    Quote Originally Posted by philly and the phanatics View Post
    what does villain even have in his limping range that can call that bet if he was going to put hero on QQ+ like seriously.
    I realize that it's a bad play but I've seen a lot of people at 25NL and below with stats in the range of 25-35/4-10/1 limp with any PP if they're IP, OOP; still the same.

    I didn't catch the 29 aggro which really only adds weight to my point, if someone who's really aggressive suddenly slows down then that should be a warning. Hero's repping an overpair and I'd lay odds that our aggro villain is slowplaying a set of 4's or better.

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    i agree that idiot limpers overvalue pocket pairs, thats why he is never ever getting a fold here on the river.
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    fwiw i got a fold.
    regardless see why you guys hate it vs this guy.
    i just figured he could fold rivers cause his w$sd was decent + with his stats his range can still be so wide after he flats the turn.
    Last edited by thelorax; 02-12-2011 at 01:27 PM.
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    Stop relying on W$sd percentages. They take forever to converge.
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    This is terrible.

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