10NL hands

[revolvingiris]

I am going to make a real effort to learn cash this year and move up pretty aggressively. I will start at 10NL so I can relearn how to play this dynamic. Here are a few hands from my first session. Anything at all you think would help I am all ears. I dont know what is standard and am coming from mainly a MTT background. Ive seen some videos but not a ton.

UTG seems pretty tight. He 3bet AQo before OOP in a similar squeeze fashion and gave up pretty quickly when I called him down with 44. I also caught villain in a bluff BvB where he called with 97o and triple barreled me.

Flop: I think the flop is 100% of his range which I gave 77+AT+. My image is pretty loose (40-30ish) but my 3bet% was low (need to work on that).

Turn: I thought about betting but I dont really want worse to fold and a semibluff here just seemed like bloating the pot.

River: I wanted to get paid off so I tried to bet something both his medium pairs and Ax would be tempted to call.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (5 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

UTG ($9.08)
MP ($9.05)
Hero (Button) ($24.05)
SB ($26.62)
BB ($21.86)

Preflop: Hero is Button with 9, K
UTG bets $0.40, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.40, SB raises to $1.70, 2 folds, Hero calls $1.30

Flop: ($3.90) 2, Q, Q (2 players)
SB bets $2.40, Hero calls $2.40

Turn: ($8.70) 9 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks

River: ($8.70) A (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $4.10, SB calls $4.10

Total pot: $16.90 | Rake: $0.82


PF and flop seem standard (I would think).

Turn: This is a pretty dry board and villain plays his strong draws fast (which he doesnt have here). I checked because I dont know what calls that is behind me other then JT, T9 (maybe) and like 50% underpairs. I checked to get value but did think villain would float with Ax sometimes. When he bets I think like AJ, JT, KT, AT, 99-66 and some random Ax hands that are now turning into a bluff. I thought it was weird to rep a J here so I chose to call and re-evaluate river.

River: This really looks like value but besides TT, JJ, AJ, JT idk what else would really be going for value here (maybe 66 and 22 also?) I did know villain was pretty tight but since I was raising a lot from the SB I figured I would be good here enough to call.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (6 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

CO ($8.10)
Button ($11.17)
Hero (SB) ($10.41)
BB ($36.56)
UTG ($11.65)
MP ($14.42)

Preflop: Hero is SB with Q, 10
4 folds, Hero bets $0.40, BB calls $0.30

Flop: ($0.80) 6, 10, 2 (2 players)
Hero bets $0.60, BB calls $0.60

Turn: ($2) J (2 players)
Hero checks, BB bets $1.20, Hero calls $1.20

River: ($4.40) 3 (2 players)
Hero checks, BB bets $2.93, Hero calls $2.93

Total pot: $10.26 | Rake: $0.50


PF: I dont really know if this is std or not. I like having a really high VPIP/PFR though since it seems to go along with my nature. I wont get stacked with Axx flop and figure I can play pretty well postflop vs these guys.

flop: Seems std?

Turn: I chose to try and double barrel since this seems like a good spot for it. Villain is playing pretty typical and thought I might be able to get a fold from a mid pair. Looking back on the hand the only mid pairs he can really have that isnt a set that I can fold is 99-TT. I do have some equity in this pot though so I thought that + my FE would make this +EV.

River: I just gave up since he seems like he has a K almost always?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (6 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

BB ($10)
UTG ($12.42)
Hero (MP) ($13.31)
CO ($36.64)
Button ($10)
SB ($10.88)

Preflop: Hero is MP with 4, A
1 fold, Hero bets $0.30, 1 fold, Button calls $0.30, 2 folds

Flop: ($0.75) 5, 7, K (2 players)
Hero bets $0.50, Button calls $0.50

Turn: ($1.75) 6 (2 players)
Hero bets $1.20, Button calls $1.20

River: ($4.15) 2 (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets $2.30, Hero folds

Total pot: $4.15 | Rake: $0.20


PF: I think std.

Flop: Villain had been donking a bit but its a pretty uncoordinated board for what *should* be calling out of the SB. I didnt think villain was a donky but but playing pretty lag. 86s and T8s seemed to be his likely holdings and maybe T9, 98, J9, K9, A9. I noticed that I have a hard time adding an air range to villains so hopfully I can get better at that. This does seem like a great board to donk on since I wont be calling that much. I chose to flat because I wanted to keep him barreling and only better hands call I think.

Turn: My plan is pretty much to just call down but this has to be a pretty bad card for me. 76 and 87 now got there as well as some random 7x gappers. This seems like a spot where villain could continue his bluff so if villain was bluffing on the flop I would expect him to continue on this turn.

River: He bets out super small and Im thinking FML. I feel like Im bet here a lot but I think if he did have air he might be scared to really bet out with it for like $2 or whatever. Villain wasnt at the table long before this hand came up so I am essentially readless.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (6 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

BB ($10.15)
UTG ($11.47)
Hero (MP) ($11.35)
CO ($36.86)
Button ($11.80)
SB ($11.47)

Preflop: Hero is MP with 9, A
1 fold, Hero bets $0.30, 2 folds, SB calls $0.25, 1 fold

Flop: ($0.70) 5, 9, 7 (2 players)
SB bets $0.40, Hero calls $0.40

Turn: ($1.50) 7 (2 players)
SB bets $0.50, Hero calls $0.50

River: ($2.50) 5 (2 players)
SB bets $0.50, Hero calls $0.50

Total pot: $3.50 | Rake: $0.16



Sorry if this is long. I will probably posting quite a few hands since I am really trying to hone my skills. Lets talk some poker BC!!!

[thelorax]

imo...

1: ok, id like pot river. you can also fold pre.
2:fold river.
3:nh
4: stats on villain? agg etc.

[couriermike]

Hand 1
Don't flat K9s to an utg open and definitely don't flat a 3-bet with it. And don't draw to non-nut hands, like 2nf on a paired board. These things are all -EV and/or have alot of reverse implied odds.

Also, calling a 3-bet and a c-bet with 44 unimproved is a losing play.

Hand 2
b/f > c/c ott. Check out this post iowaskinsfan post on why b/f > c/c

When you 'check to get value', you're really playing your hand as a bluff-catcher, which is fine if villain is bluffy, but you said villain was tight. So I don't like the river call. You're putting three postflop bets into the pot with 2pwk, that's not good.

Also, it's natural but wrong to think that micro players are making alot of big adjustments to your play. They almost never are. When the tight guy starts betting, especially on the turn and river, he has it.

Hand 3
This is fine except for the turn. That's not a good scare card, so don't 2barrel there.

Hand 4
is fine imo. The middle and bottom cards pairing do pull some of his flop donking range ahead of you, but tptk is still good here alot because he can have worse 9s.

[revolvingiris]

44? None of the hands I have posted contain 44.

H1: I see where your going this this but I am thinking more about relative hand strength vs how strong my hand is currently. We're 240bbs deep effective and hands like K9s go up in value esp in position. I am also assuming villain leads the flop with 100% of his range:

Board: Qs Qh 2h
Dead:

Hand 0: 41.688% { Kh9h }
Hand 1: 58.312% { 77+, AJs+, AJo+ }

On the turn I improve greatly plus he checked it to me:

Board: Qs Qh 2h 9d
Dead:

Hand 0: 61.460% { Kh9h }
Hand 1: 38.540% { 77+, AJs+, AJo+ }

I think this hand shows pretty well how much position plays a roll in NHLE and esp 6max. If this guy was like an ubernit I would fold but this player had some play in him and I saw early that he was capable of making moves.

Also, if I pot on the river what will call?

H2: Where do I b/f? I also wont b/f if I think it will fold out all of villains air range/things that beat me where as if I c/c he will bet out and value own himself.

H4: Villain was like 40/25 with a 10 3bet who liked to donk bet when he hit even small pairs (but I didn't realize this until later in the match.

[couriermike]

From OP:

UTG seems pretty tight. He 3bet AQo before OOP in a similar squeeze fashion and gave up pretty quickly when I called him down with 44.

[Icanhastreebet]

1. fold to the open and the 3b, raise the flop or at least bet the turn
2. I barrel as a std, this really depends on reads and shit. c/c turn fold river or c/c both is okay depending on reads.
3. fold pre, turn bet is pure spew, just look at how this card is going to help/hurt his range(it never hurts it) and I'm somehow who almost barrels when I pick up equity like 100%
4. fold pre, a lot of ppl will call me a bitch for this but you shouldn't be opening this unless you have a reason for it(bad players in the blinds, nits in the blinds, nit in CO or BTN). I'd call down and consider jamming the river.

[Icanhastreebet]

oh in the 4th hand if there are stationy/3by/good players behind you it's gonna be the suck playing this OOP this deep

[revolvingiris]

OK guys I think I might be looking for something a little bit more in-depth then generalizations. If I did not clearly lay out the dynamic of a hand or get specific enough then let me know and I will add to it.

My approach to the game is trying to play as loose and aggro as I possibly can. I want to put myself in as many difficult spots as possible so I can learn faster. Sure I could just be a tag and be totally std but that isn't a habit I want to develop early.

Ican:

1: But why? Where is the thought behind folding? Why or why isnt it + or - EV to call here?
3: How is a turn semibluff where I have an OESD + an A as outs pure spew? Sure the turn didnt help his range but I am repping a K so villain will fold out weaker pairs sometimes. My plan was to bet a big river if I hit. Seems like betting here is profitable?
4:A9s isnt that weak of a hand so I thought it would be a part of my standard opening range from MP. If you jam the river with the line I took. What can villain call you with that you beat on this board? I would more then likely fold to a 3bet from the players who have position on me but call if it was from one of the blinds.

[ColdDecked]

Would like to know more info on villains. It's hard to say when you give us so little info, so I'm just going to give you my default against an unknown.

1) fold or 3b pre (weighted heavily on folding pre until we know a bit more about UTG). Fold to SB 3bet. If you say the guy is tight UTG and he's getting 3bet, then sb would probably have a pretty strong range and is 3betting for value. What was your reasoning behind both your calls pre?

2) hand 2 depends a lot on villain. Against an unknown I'd b/f small on the turn. It's thin, but a lot of his hands that floated flop would have caught overs + gutter. Would probably then c/c a brick river. c/c turn is okay but these spots really depend a lot on villain.

3) Pre depends on table dynamic. ie. fish in the blinds, nits to your left, etc etc. As a standard I'd fold pre. I think c/f>b/f in this spot. Turn isn't a great barrel card since it is unlikely to help our range. We're probably not going to get paid off by much when we hit our straight since it's hard to get value on 4 straight boards. And w/ b/f we're really maybe folding 99-TT and air (which we don't know since you didn't tell us how often he folds to cbets), since most of his 7x hands would have turned a draw or 2p and Kx isn't folding. Since we don't have much fold equity and when we hit it'd be hard to get value, I'd just c/f.

4) Fine imo. Pre again depends on table dynamics. I find that as a standard, A9s is the bottom of my Axs opens from MP until I develop further reads. I find that when fish bets the same/similar amounts on each street it tends to mean that their hand strength haven't changed. We only need 17% to break even, and I'm sure there's worse hands that villain has in this spot so it's an easy call.

[revolvingiris]

Colddecked:

1: Folding is certainly an option. This is the first cash session I have played in years so I have a lot to learn. My reasoning behind the flat PF is that I have position and will be able to outplay UTG post a lot. Meaning I wont go broke with any TP and will possibly get to steal the pot later. I figured this open was around 22+ AT+ KTs+ QTs+ KQ QJ which K9s has decent equity against PF.

Hand 0: 39.988% { K9s }
Hand 1: 60.012% { 22+, ATs+, KTs+, QTs+, AJo+, KQo, QJo }

As for calling the 3bet my thought was that I have a speculative hand that can flop Ok vs a 3bettor who is going to pretty much play face up on every street. I put SB on 77+ AT+. UTG is technically the HIJ since this is 5 handed so I dont think this is 100% the nuts and villain has made plays before.

Hand 0: 35.162% { K9s }
Hand 1: 64.838% { 77+, ATs+, ATo+ }

So kind of the same thing here where we are now 240bb deep once the UTG folds and my hand goes up a lot in value when we are this deep. My issue is that I dont know if K9s goes up in value enough to make this +EV or not. I did think I had an edge on SB postflop so I chose to call.

2: Is it std for villains to float flops with 9 high to hit gutshots on turn? AQ AK both 3bet me PF so KQ has an OESD now but idk how likely villain is to float this dry of a flop with K high ( I would assume not likely). I feel like the only thing villain can really have is Tx (good kickers) and maybe like AJ. I would be interested to see what you think a typical float range would be if you were villain on this board. Villain was running 20-15ish and I am running 40-34ish.

3: Villain folds to cbets around 65% of the time.