10NL, standard jam spots?

[couriermike]

Are we always jamming in these spots?

Hand 1, Button's 50/0 over 2 hands.

Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (6 handed) - Full Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

UTG ($13.31)
MP ($17.24)
CO ($3.97)
Button ($7.20)
SB ($2.59)
Hero (BB) ($10)

Preflop: Hero is BB with J, 9
1 fold, MP bets $0.20, CO calls $0.20, Button calls $0.20, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.10

Flop: ($0.85) 3, 9, 9 (4 players)
Hero checks, MP bets $0.30, 1 fold, Button calls $0.30, Hero raises to $1, 1 fold, Button calls $0.70

Turn: ($3.15) 2 (2 players)
Hero bets $2, Button raises to $4, Hero raises to $8.80 (All-In)


Hand 2, villain's 16/5/1 over 19 hands.
I check the turn because I was gonna play bluff-catcher otr or bet if he checked.

Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (6 handed) - Full Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

SB ($5.71)
BB ($9.01)
UTG ($8.97)
MP ($10.97)
CO ($12.40)
Hero (Button) ($15.05)

Preflop: Hero is Button with K, 10
3 folds, Hero bets $0.30, 1 fold, BB calls $0.20

Flop: ($0.65) 8, 9, 9 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $0.40, BB calls $0.40

Turn: ($1.45) K (2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks

River: ($1.45) K (2 players)
BB bets $2, Hero raises to $14.35 (All-In)

[daviddem]

H1: why raise so small on the flop? Minraise on the turn is worrying, don't see why he would minraise here w/ a FD so he probably has you beat unless he is completely spazzing w/ a PP. My best guess, since he doesn't seem worried about flush draws on the flop, is that he flopped a FH w/33. Or maybe he is slowplaying some A9.

H2: Don't get it. Maybe I am missing something. Why would you not get it in here?

[Viscaro]

H1: Without reads I'm happy to get it in here. We dominate both 89 and 9T and its conceivable he has spades. For the price we're getting on the turn I just can't fold it.

H2: When you raise this large its hard to get paid of even by 9x. Make it smaller and hes more likely to pay you with his Ax and 9x hands.

[daviddem]

H2 imo if he is going to call any kind of meaningful raise (1/2 PSR = approx. $4.7), then he will often call a shove as well because he only has $8.3 behind, not that much difference. He may be a nit, but he is not full stacked, indication that he sucks. He overbets the river meaning he likes his hand. A shove also looks more bluffy than a calculated raise. So shove, even if he calls a little less often, the extra money will make up for it. Also if he folds, he'll be more likely to call your shove next time you pull that move.

[Miffed22001]

H1 - id raise more on the flop - $1.50 ish rather than $1 - it sets up bet/shove on turn river better. i think on the flop you raise because you are ahead of most of villains 9x type hands he'll play (except an A9s maybe, unlikely they have Q9/K9) so on the turn id bet $3 into a bigger pot and never fold as played just get it in and expect to be good the better amount of the time.

H2 just try and get called.

[daven]

J9o. Calling pre is less wonderful than you might imagine. Like, it's not necessarily terrible, but... Raise flop far bigger, call the turn min-raise.

kTo. Yep.

[kfaess]

H1: I def just muck this PF. Otherwise, I think you played it pretty well. In addition to the worse 9's we can get called by, I wouldn't be surprised if he called it off with TT/JJ either.

H2: hmm, dunno if he's calling a shove ever with anything that's not chopping. I think I'd rather just raise to like 6.50 and hope he thinks you always ship with a K so you must be fos.

[daviddem]

I think I'd rather just raise to like 6.50 and hope he thinks you always ship with a K so you must be fos.

He's got $8.3 behind. Is he really gonna call a raise to $6.50 but not one to $8.3?

Against nitty opps, I will not hit the all-in button here, just raise to an amount that puts them all in, just to prevent the "all-in" message to pop on their screen. This may have some psychological effect that helps them finding a call.

[kfaess]

He's got $8.3 behind. Is he really gonna call a raise to $6.50 but not one to $8.3?

Against nitty opps, I will not hit the all-in button here, just raise to an amount that puts them all in, just to prevent the "all-in" message to pop on their screen. This may have some psychological effect that helps them finding a call.

ahh good call, didn't realize he had that little left behind on the river. yea I ship this all day.

[Zel]

First hand, I'm okay, played as is. I read the other posters, and it looks like the flop raise needs to be bigger, which is probably true. I had a similar hand where I flopped top set and did a min 4bet after my raise got 3bet. Board hit a straight on the turn and the flush on the river, so you definitely want to give them the wrong odds for chasing.

Second hand, I'd bet less for value, but most LAG call those shoves, so its fine as is. I think this is true for low stakes players, but maybe I'm just bullshitting.