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OOP 3-Bet Cold Call + Flop Donk

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  1. #1

    Default OOP 3-Bet Cold Call + Flop Donk

    Just sat down at this table, this is my 4th hand. Seen him fold the first hand to an UTG raise, then he raised the second hand himself UTG, then he folded the third hand to my BTN raise.

    My range is JJ+, AKo, AQs+. Now this is weird, he flats my 3-bet OOP then donks pot on a dry board instead of allowing me to cbet. IMO this shifts the weight of his range away from 9X hands as well as 88 since those are close to the immortal nuts vs my range. I think if he was donking with those hands it would be much smaller, or he would go for a c/r. Unfortunately no AF stat on this villain.

    His donk range:
    66+,AKs,A9s-A8s,QJs,JTs,T9s,98s,AKo,JTo

    Board: 8s 9h 9c
    Dead:

    equity win tie pots won pots tied
    Hand 0: 54.667% 53.85% 00.82% 39983 607.00 { JdJs }
    Hand 1: 45.333% 44.52% 00.82% 33053 607.00 { 66+, AKs, A9s-A8s, QJs, JTs, T9s, 98s, AKo, JTo }


    Now there's ~$5 in the pot and he has ~5$ behind. Should I be turning into a station, or just get it in right here? Problem is, a fair amount of hands I beat get away when I raise (AK, 66, 77, QJ). Then again, he's probably not putting more money in the pot with those hands anyways when turn is a brick. If I call, I would hate to see an overcard on the turn.

    Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (6 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

    Hero (CO) ($11.01)
    Button ($31.40)
    SB ($8.66)
    BB ($20)
    UTG ($17.68)
    MP ($10)

    Preflop: Hero is CO with J, J
    UTG bets $0.35, 1 fold, Hero raises to $1.10, 1 fold, SB calls $1.05, 2 folds

    Flop: ($2.65) 8, 9, 9 (2 players)
    SB bets $2.65
    Last edited by tyrn; 10-22-2010 at 05:42 PM.
  2. #2
    I wold prefer not to 3bet and UTG's open with JJ without reads. It puts you in tough spots like this post flop that you would avoid had you 3b a more polar range because theoretically he should have a really strong range for continuing to your 3bet in these positions.

    If it were sb vs bu then that changes things.
  3. #3
    Hmm yeah good point, didn't consider flatting. Still, its only tough when he donks pot on a dry 9 high flop. A high or K high flops are easy as well as when he doesn't donk on this flop.

    Are you calling or folding to a cbet with an overcard on the flop if you just call PF? Because theoretically Q, K or A should nail his range.
    Last edited by tyrn; 10-22-2010 at 05:16 PM.
  4. #4
    I'd shove the flop because I don't think he takes this line or sizing with 88/9x very often. More likely his range is weighted towards TT/77/66 with some combo's of A8s/JTs and he's "putting you on AK" hence the PSB.

    UTG vs CO with no reads I'd flat with JJ.

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