Really loose table with AQs, somewhat confusing

[Santo2True]

So I got really lucky and landed on this super loose table.

BB is a Maniac, I have watched him limp in and call raises with atc. He has also gone all-in with missed draws and other crazy hands. He's like 50/20 and I have notes on him from previous games that he is horrible and can easily be value bet.

MP2 is also very loose, but has been playing decent hands and we'll call his range for a call pre, {78s+, Q8s+, Q9o+, K9s+, KTo+, 22+, A2o+, A2s+} stats are like 29/9

SB is another close to maniac, raising pre with pretty much any face card whether IP or not. Range for SB raising is something like {K2o+, A2o+, 22+, Q9o+, and any two broadways} stats 37/13

Preflop: UTG+1 limps in, he can be holding anything here and there's no real bother of attempting a range for obvious reasons. I raise 6xbb as there is some loose callers behind me as well. MP2 calls the raise, and he's about the only one I'm giving any credit to holding something decent. Out of no where SB raises to 11xbb which I wasn't really expecting. I thought about tightening their range, but honestly from what I've seen going to showdown I don't think this raise deserves much credit at all. BB calls and I know this means nothing as well. But then MP2 still calls. I have to put him on a better range at this point.
So we got BB=atc, probably any suited, BW or pocket pairs.
SB=pretty much what I posted above as they seem to be on a tilt pattern and I feel they are trying to take this pot right here as I did fold ealier to a 3bet
MP2={ATs+, AJo+, 77+, KTs+, Q9s+, J9s+, KJo+}

Flop= Not sure what more I could ask for with a flop like this. I feel it's an awsome flop for SB as this kind of flop probably paired something he's holding or looks so dry to him he'll deffinitly c-bet. I didn't think BB would call at this point but I was wrong. 2/3rd pot bet pretty much all-in and I'm really feeling a set here, draw or made straight or complete air. AA cross my mind, but I think this type of player would have shoved pre with this hand in a four way pot. So BB goes all-in. WTF.. shove range here for both of them I think is either {Axo+, 78s-89s, 78o-89o, 22+, and BW's} or complete air....
I think this was probably a good place for me to shove to get MP2 out of pot but I feel like he is not folding either way.

Turn=I know this was probably weak on my part but since I missed my draw I was hoping MP2 would let me get the free card and if he shoved here I would have had to reconsider the whole plan. He checks behind and I think I got his range narrowed down. I'm way behind at this point and am pretty sure he's on a draw or has a good pocket pair.

River=Well the plan paid off this time. I shove ofcourse as I can't see MP2 going anywhere and will hopefully think I'm shoving as a scare with the third diamond. He calls.

Sooo, although this hand went well, I don't feel like I played it right.... My first question is Should the preflop raise be higher in this spot? I just got done reading through Spoon's preflop raising behind limpers and how often to blind steal posts and I think I probably should have 4bet pre. Second... did I have enough equity to call the shove on the flop?
Pokerstove says I had about 51.061%, MP1=5.788%, SB=16.952% and BB=26.199%
After the turn almost all our equity was about even with me only in the lead by a small % and the SB still trailing behind by a few %... This is why I checked here, was this a bad move too? I don't want to always play this hand the wrong way so if anyone has a different opinion please let me know even though I know I won't run into this often.

Sorry for the long post and I understand if not everyone wants to read it but this is my first one and I've only recently attempted hand ranges. I was actually pretty happy about the ranges I put on the opponents and I feel like this forum has been the BIGGEST tool I could have ever stumbled on.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (8 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

saw flop

MP2 ($27.25)
CO ($25)
Button ($6)
SB ($10.10)
BB ($13.20)
UTG ($7.75)
UTG+1 ($16.90)
Hero (MP1) ($24.65)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with Q, A
UTG calls $0.25, 1 fold, Hero bets $1.50, MP2 calls $1.50, 2 folds, SB raises to $2.75, BB calls $2.50, 1 fold, Hero calls $1.25, MP2 calls $1.25

Flop: ($11.25) 5, 4, 6 (4 players)
SB bets $7, BB raises to $10.45 (All-In), Hero calls $10.45, MP2 calls $10.45, SB calls $0.35 (All-In)

Turn: ($49.95) J (4 players, 2 all-in)
Hero checks, MP2 checks

River: ($49.95) J (4 players, 2 all-in)
Hero bets $11.45 (All-In), MP2 calls $11.45

Total pot: $72.85 | Rake: $3

[spoonitnow]

I think you should just shove the flop. Calling doesn't seem to have any advantage over shoving, but shoving denies MP2 such great odds to call with any piece. Since MP2 isn't folding anything close anyway and you're way ahead of his calling range, I think shoving is much better than calling.

The pre-flop raise sizing is okay I guess, but it makes you very vulnerable to 3-bets.

[Santo2True]

that's pretty much the exact answer i was looking for... this is exactly how i felt i should have played it...

[ljove]

This was expensive call.You won't get to much money if you call all in for every draw.

[Santo2True]

i didn't call all-in on the draw, i only called they're all-in, i still had money left, and I wouldn't call all-in on "every" draw, but I had alot of equity in this perticular hand especially against these villains

[spoonitnow]

It's good to also be thinking about the possibility that shoving could get MP2 to fold some hands he should call with. Multi-way the fundamental theorem often breaks down, so it would probably be worth it to see if getting MP2 to fold hands he should call with will give us a higher EV than not here.

[Santo2True]

yeah, it was definitely a shove situation and i really wanted to but I felt if I only called it left me money to continue with. i guess that's the wrong mind frame to be in on a hand like this as with a missed draw MP2 could have showed up with something that beats me here right?

[Hoopy]

At worst you have 26% vs a set and a slight favorite against an over pair (nobody is folding 99 type hands). Plus you get to close out the action against MP2, though it's a weird spot because although you have a draw your equity is very decent so FE shouldn't matter as much.

4 bet pre should be ok as well - you take down plenty of dead money + SB 3 bet/shove stuff which you beat.

[spoonitnow]

I'm pretty sure calling preflop is much better than 4-betting.

[Santo2True]

yeah, i think it's like 50/50 on the 4bet, seems like an odd position this perticular time. Calling at the time definitely felt right vs a 4bet.

SB showed up with K2o (lmfao), BB had 33 and MP2 had TT so i feel my ranges were pretty spot on