Funny KK hand ( brag)

[littleogre]

I was about ready to quit and this hand came up. Instead of just making a normal 3 bet i decided to just shove. The hand mainly illustrates that micro players are capable of calling with any 2 regardless of bet size.

Absolute Poker (Cash Game): $0.01/$0.02 NL, 8 players
Sun, Sep 27, 2009 09:47:39 EDT
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B3 ($3.43)
B2 ($4.11)
B1 ($1.02)
BN ($1.93)
SB ($2.27)
Hero ($1.05)
B5 ($1.85)
B4 ($1.37)

BN is the button.

Precards:
SB posts the small blind $0.01, Hero posts the big blind $0.02.

Preflop: Hero is dealt K K (8 active)
2 folds, B3 calls $0.02, 2 folds, BN raises to $0.04, SB calls $0.03, Hero raises to $1.05 (all-in), B3 calls $1.03, 2 folds.

Flop: 2 8 9 ($2.18, 2 players)

Turn: 2 8 9 3 ($2.18, 2 players)

River: 2 8 9 3 5 ($2.18, 2 players)

Final Pot: $2.08, $0.10 raked
Hero, net: $1.03, Won at showdown, has K K (a Pair of Kings)
B3, net: -$1.05, Lost at showdown, has 7 8 (a Pair of Eights)
BN, net: -$0.04, Folded Preflop
SB, net: -$0.04, Folded Preflop


Limp calls 50x the bb with 78

[littleogre]

The above post is more then a brag. It also posses a question. At 2nl is 3-bet shoving your big hands more +ev then just a standard 3-bet? If it is does it make your game better over all. If we 3-bet shove our good hands then we must shove when we 3-bet bluff. Of course the only time i 3-bet bluff in 2nl is in the blinds versus a button raise from a player with a laggy image. At another forum where people like to do fun things like turning 10$ into 1k in a month one thing they say they do is they just shove AA and KK against pf raises when they are at 2nl

[poker_pup]

There was this guy on Bodog who used to shove AA and KK preflop EVERY TIME he got them. He did this for months (if not longer) and still got callers about half the time he did it. He was doing this at $10NL (or maybe $25NL).

Point being, I think 3-bet shoving your big hands preflop would be +EV at 2NL.

[daven]

just 3-bet them big
why you playing 50bb?!?

[surviva316]

in case you're wondering who it that gave your thread 1 spade, it was me.

btw, don't play da 2enellz 50bb deep

[Monsieur_chat]

At 2nl (and only at 2nl) I just used to 3bet shove my premium made hands. Was pretty profitable.

[LawDude]

If you find you get callers when you do this a significant amount of the time at a particular level (and not just from players who have AA against your KK), go ahead and do it-- it's probably +EV and it also saves you the difficult decisions post-flop, which for a beginning player is probably also +EV.

But there will be a level where it doesn't work anymore.

[littleogre]

in case you're wondering who it that gave your thread 1 spade, it was me.

btw, don't play da 2enellz 50bb deep

The reason i'm buying in 4 50bb is because i only have like 30 bucks in my account. I'm actually doing one of those make a big br out of a small amount experiments. I removed all but 5 dollars from my account. Mainly because i needed the money for life reasons. I started out playing with 80c buy ins. Now after 21k hands i'm up to 31 bucks. So i buy in for more. Not having the same success as those guys at 2p2. A few different people there have turned 5 and 10 to 1k+ in a matter of weeks. They are mostly MS players doing prop bets though MS= medium stakes by the way.

[acoss3006]

I find the whole raise/shove thing depends on the table. If you have a real aggro guy on your table who will call everything, probably a good move.