why are cbet opportunities so low?

[rowhousepd]

I'm looking how often I Cbet the flop out of how many opportunities I have. (I'm using Poker Tracker, btw). I did by filtering out Cont Bets Opps on the flop. And out of 10k hands at the limit I'm looking at now, apparently there are only about 350 total opportunities. (Keep in mind that I'm a somewhat Tight-Agr/Arg player -- 19 VP$P, 9 PFR, and 3.5 AF -- so I was surprised to see how few there were.)

Though I know it's a very good stat for looking at your own leaks, I'm asking here mostly because of how I'd specifically use this on the HUD. With say 300 hands played against someone (which I consider enough hands to at least start getting a sence of some of their betting habits), that means I'm often seeing the flop cbet % based on maybe measly 10 hands. This just doesn't seem right.

Maybe I'm missing something here, but wouldn't you need to have a sh*tload of hands on a opponent before the cbet flop stat actually becomes relevant?? I know a lot of people out there have that stat on their HUD, so how it is even meaningful for looking at most villains you encounter?

[spoonitnow]

It's because you're a nit preflop and rarely open raise.

[jyms]

You only raised 900 hands in 10K. 9PFR =900 hands and if you see a flop you need to bet. seems pretty right to me. Your stats suck. Your AF is so high becaue you only raise premiums and of course your going to be aggressive. Do you find nobody pays off your good hands and at showdowns they always seem to have it

[AFchung]

19/9 ?

stop limping and raise

[Vinland]

Nish: having 11 VPIP in full ring is fine imo....
the 7 PRF is a bit low. If you are only playing approx 11% of your hands, much of that range can be raised for value and you are probably missing these opportunities with a PFR of 7. Its not terrible but a lot of stats I have seen here are probably more like 11/8+... Thats only 1 point up from you but that constitutes some strong hands that you are likely limping behind and losing value on.
You have to remember that they are limping a wide range at 2nl, very wide, so raising your A9o from the BTN with 2 limpers in front will be well ahead of their range except for small PP that they will limp.

Having said that, you're only talking 7K hands...not a lot.

[Da GOAT]

100 hands is a big enough same to spot a 11/7 nit. if someone plays 100 hands like that itll be the same stats when they have 10,000 hands

[Vinland]

Well yeah a nit is a nit but idk about you're hand sample arguement.
I usually 2 table and have run 4/4 over 100 hands at one table (getting crap cards and not many raising or blind stealing opportunities) and another table running 11/9 which is where I like to be in FR.

[Da GOAT]

a nit is a nit, u can tell over 100 hand sampe usually what your gonna expect of opp. you ran 4/4 over 100 thus a nit, u also run 11/9 which is fairly nitty too.

whats considered a lag a FR?? 18/15? If I was at FR id be playing that style for sure.

[Vinland]

So if a nit is 11/9 and a lag is 18/15, where would you place a TAG (approx stats)? I'm playing at 5nl....
I was under the impression that 11/9 would be considered Tag in the low micros...maybe I'm missing opportunites to play/raise....

[BooG690]

You begin to widen your range as you get comfortable at the table...or at least you should.

[Outlaw]

You only raised 900 hands in 10K. 9PFR =900 hands and if you see a flop you need to bet. seems pretty right to me. Your stats suck. Your AF is so high becaue you only raise premiums and of course your going to be aggressive. Do you find nobody pays off your good hands and at showdowns they always seem to have it

Well said

[Da GOAT]

So if a nit is 11/9 and a lag is 18/15, where would you place a TAG (approx stats)? I'm playing at 5nl....
I was under the impression that 11/9 would be considered Tag in the low micros...maybe I'm missing opportunites to play/raise....

i was just using estimates as my numbers. 12/10 is probably standard tag at full ring though dont quote me. i would still call a 12/10 a nit though for fun.

[bjsaust]

Any time your PFR and your VPIP moves more than 5% apart without a good reason, you're probably calling too much PF. General rule, there are exceptions but they normally only exist on a specific table v's specific villains and average out over time.