Quote Originally Posted by iopq
stacks when he donks river like that it's not a bluff line often it's omg I'm missing value if he checks back
I'd agree with you if he donked turn because most people don't donk the turn with the nuts unless they improved on the turn
I agree with you. And I would muck the river pretty fast against quite a few players. However, against a 66/13 who is (1) very unlikely to understand relative hand strength (2) probably still has a pretty wide range, and (3) does retarded crap on nearly every decision, I don't hate a call. During play I would probably call under the pretense of "lol he's fucking retarded". In review, it's definitely closer to a fold, but against 66/13... I'm not sold.

We need 33% equity. If we look at his value range that beats us as {22, 55, 77, 88, 64s, 75s, 85s, 75o, 85o, 96o, 96s, 87o, 87s, K8o, K8s, K7o, K7s} then we have 17% equity. If we toss in {T9s, T9o, KQs, KQo, KJo, KJs}, then it's a call, as we have 34.2% equity. So even with a wide value range on the river, because frankly he can have loads of 2 pair, straights, sets, he still doesn't have to be betting worse all that often. This is also assuming he plays those hands in this manner all the time. That is he always gets to the river with 55, 75, etc and bets river with them every time. Which is probably an okay assumption to make. However, with a player this bad, I also don't see how we can't account for a reasonable amount of either retardedly worse hands betting, or bluffs being in his range.

Either way, I don't mind a fold. I just don't hate a call either.