10NL KK played very badly

[NoPantsPoker]

Only 6 hands on Villain, so no read.

I screwed this one up starting on the flop. With that board should this be a check fold, bet fold, or something else completely?


PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (6 handed) - Poker-Stars

saw flop | saw showdown

CO ($21.65)
Button ($10.10)
SB ($13.25)
Hero (BB) ($10)
UTG ($10.85)
MP ($10.30)

Preflop: Hero is BB with Ks, Kc
2 folds, CO bets $0.50, 1 fold, SB calls $0.45, Hero raises to $1.70, CO calls $1.20, SB calls $1.20

Flop: ($5.10) As, Qd, 4s (3 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, CO bets $1.50, 1 fold, Hero calls $1.50

Turn: ($8.10) 7c (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $1.50, Hero calls $1.50

River: ($11.10) 2s (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $5.30, Hero folds

Total pot: $11.10 | Rake: $0.50

Results:
CO didn't show
Outcome: CO won $10.60

[lockpull]

Well you already seem to know PF should have been bigger so barring that I think I like a Cbet here. What I do next would depend heavily on who did what vs. my Cbet and then revaluate on the turn. Interested in other opinions though.

I just fold, there is no way four people see a flop and none of them flop good

[Transience]

What iopq said, imo not worth a cbet since people will continue a lot of the time with any A, Q or draw, and you have to figure in a multiway 3bet pot somebody has an A.

[NoPantsPoker]

Good advice....but then what would have been a good Preflop raise amopunt?

[lockpull]

I just fold, there is no way two people see a flop and none of them flop good

I just fold, there is no way two people see a flop and none of them flop good

three including us I miscounted by one so sue me

[lockpull]

I just fold, there is no way two people see a flop and none of them flop good

three including us I miscounted by one so sue me

I meant that with only two people still in the hand it would be very easy for one of them to not have a hand or maybe Qx so a cbet does not seem all that bad to me here and why would we include ourselves in "the people that could have flopped good" here??.

And I will settle out of court for $29.95.

well if we missed we're card blocking other combos
instead of possible 12 KQ combos he now has only 6
instead of possible 12 AK combos he now has only 6
so now there are more AQ and AJ (9 and 12 respectively)

so if he folds hands like QJ/KJ to a 3b pf, he's more likely to have an ace than a Q

[lockpull]

Good points.
I just think c/f is so weak here, then again I prob lose a lot of money in these spots as well.

Nopants--- The more I look at the PF raise the more I don't mind it as much. I might have gone to $2 (4x) since we will be oop vs CO and I would like to get this heads up vs him but 1.70 does not seem all that bad. Did he sit down with 20?

[NoPantsPoker]

No, he would only have been able to sit down with 10, but I was only there for 6 hands so I wasn't able to see how he built his stack.

I can see how $2 would have been a better raise, especially considering the initial call by the sb

[surviva316]

raise more PF because you do NOT want to play in MP in a 3-way pot. i'm perfectly happy if it's folded after i bet 2-2.25.