Im not saying fold hand 1 because honestly, I dont think anyone folds it - myself included.

Oskar: When putting someone on a range of hands you dont just list of every possible hand that makes something on the board and then leave it at that. You have to eliminate hands that wouldn't show up based on the action. For example, you can't include J6 in his range here due to preflop action, and 44 doesn't make sense because of the turn min raise.

Sil: I said the 'lets just assume hes 5/0 over 500 hands thing' to illustrate a point that we can't necessarily auto-call everytime someone shoves into us and we have a boat. There are going to be times where we have some history on a guy to know we are beat in this situation. I know we don't know enough here, but I'm saying sometimes we'll play against people who only overshove monster hands postflop. Like when somone says 'I call no matter who it is', clearly they need to take into account the scenerio when we have alot of history - enough to pretty much put him on an exact hand. Obviously we call no matter who it is here if we don't know exactly how they play postflop.

Looneychune: I like leading the flop because I lead these type of flops when I have nothing often, so I don't like checking all of a sudden when I hit. There's a flush draw and an ace on board, and no matter what the turn card the ace and the flush draw are pretty much the only hands you'll get action from since if someone turns a lower pair they will want to keep the pot small because of the ace on the flop. Might as well bet now and if someone has the draw or the ace you'll get action, if not, you probably wouldn't get much action by slowplaying unless someone turns a bigger boat.